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[Music]

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foreign

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what's up guys uh can't get enough of

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that music

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um welcome welcome to a very special

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Halloween themed live stream of

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somewhere in the skies today uh good

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morning to all of you on the East Coast

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on the west coast I know it's early for

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you West coasters and it is late morning

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on the East Coast so I hope you enjoyed

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this horror movie review with your

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morning coffee uh it is almost 4 P.M

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here in the UK so we're moving on from

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coffee I got a little bit of a little

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fun inebriation plan for tonight I'm

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gonna need it uh but that has nothing to

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do with our guests it has everything to

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do with the movie we will be discussing

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and as you saw in the intro it is

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Halloween ends the highly divisive movie

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that just came out to end the most

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recent Trilogy of the Halloween

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franchise so to discuss this movie today

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with us is we have Dennis Carlo we have

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Bethany Watson and we have Nick

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westermeyer guys welcome to somewhere in

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the skies

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[Applause]

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hello hello

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oh my gosh that was the most excited

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intro I've ever I've ever had so thank

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you guys thank you for joining me I know

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it's early we're highly caffeinated and

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psyched to be here cheers

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like to be a person who listens to your

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voice on a weekly basis and then see you

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talking live is like and actually being

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here is such an honor yeah because you

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know I've been such a huge fan of yours

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for so long and then like after we

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connected I was like oh my God we're

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friends now best friend but every time I

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listen to the podcast I'm like God he's

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so good and I'm like wait I know him I

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text him sometimes I know even during

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the intro Dennis just tapped me and he

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went he's so good

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yeah

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Nick what do you have to what good

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things do you have to say about me Nick

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it's like Nick

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I know I haven't talked to you in a

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while but um I'm moving Apartments could

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and then he doesn't hear from me where

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were you when I moved to Scotland come

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on and I wouldn't you listen I would

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have come for that that's a treat

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yeah

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Nick you really should have if you were

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a decent friend even a decent friend you

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would have gotten on that I'm not fair

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I'm a failure you're a failure as a

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well guys we could Preamble forever but

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the reason we're here today is to

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discuss Halloween ends uh I do want to

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say hello to everyone in the chat is the

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video over no West rule it's just

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Hillary is here it's just getting

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started hi guys welcome welcome

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um so yeah we're gonna be discussing

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Halloween ends for those of you who have

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not seen it yet this will be a very

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spoiler heavy review episode so warning

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you right now

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um and hey if you're watching it live

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you haven't seen the movie I don't know

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why I'm saying this but stop watching it

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it's on peacock

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what poor marketing on my part stop

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watching us right now you know Ryan

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since I started doing my YouTube videos

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like I can see where where I say like so

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here's where I get into spoilers that's

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immediately where people stop watching

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yeah and then they come back like a week

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later like I finally watched the movie

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and now I can finish this [\h__\h] review

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in five minutes can we curse on here is

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it absolutely okay I guess we'll talk

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about the difference of backdrops it's

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like Mega backdrop with me and Dennis

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Ryan he's got like hey background he's

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like I'm in my kitchen

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from Nick's kitchen to my measly

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attempted Halloween to like full-on

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professionals horror film director and

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film actor it's like the level of

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professionalism it's like here's Nick

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and there's nothing guys they're like

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it's all you know between uh Dollar

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Store back here we got these for free at

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Kohl's Kohl's cash yeah Kohl's cash to

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get all this stuff oh yeah that's the

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most important thing you've said yet I

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know I know we're now Suburban if you

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return from Amazon packages to Kohl's

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you get five dollars Kohl's cash

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you spend it on Halloween ah there you

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go there is your tip of the day guys

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anything just shove it to Amazon

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exactly and we're also wearing our Art

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Bell headsets in honor of you know the

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the not just spooky season but this is

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the you know we're talking to an alien

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expert uh uh you know so it's like we

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I love it I love it well for any of our

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this will be a podcast as well after the

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live stream uh let's let's introduce you

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guys to the audience we saw some brief

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intros there Nick I hope you enjoyed

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that little house Massacre Cameo I found

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um tell us who you guys are Nick let's

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start with you buddy um who are you what

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do you do why are you here today uh I'm

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Nicholas westmor I am a college

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professor and actor and a director in

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New York based out of New York

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uh that's what I do I'm here because I

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love all of these beautiful people in

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this room and I love talking in horror

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movies it's literally my I look forward

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to it every year I I make Ryan do these

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so I can come back

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it does usually by gunpoint but he

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didn't have that yeah but he moved to

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Scotland so I had to figure out new ways

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to do it yeah yeah it's bribery bribery

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is a funny fickle thing of Dennis

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Bethany uh yeah introduce yourselves to

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our audience if you don't mind yeah um

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I'm Bethany Watson I'm a former uh radio

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host I am an actress and a podcaster now

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acquired taste and one is called the

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check-in which is a bonus of an acquired

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taste I do the check-in with Dennis

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um and yeah Dennis and I stream on

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Twitch and we make horror movies we make

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horror movies so this is definitely a

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genre uh near and dear to my heart for

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sure

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and my name is Dennis callow I am a

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photographer and a filmmaker primarily

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horror

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uh uh what else oh I make YouTube videos

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please go subscribe if you can

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youtube.com decal I'm trying to get

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monetized damn it I need to get a

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thousand followers beforehand yeah

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um but anyway you're still good there

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man yeah

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yeah thank you Nick thank you so much I

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do yeah I do Deep dive documentaries uh

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they're about like you know 18 minutes

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long the first one that just came out is

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uh how about Halloween three ironically

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seasoned the winch uh which ties into

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this conversation right now but that's

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me that's what I do and Ryan and I are

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working on something where I'm

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developing two features right now one

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with Ryan and Nick and one with Bethany

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and our friend uh will yep and uh yeah

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so those are so that's what's going on

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yeah exciting guys yes it was a very

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it's crazy how small this world is I

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remember Dennis you reaching out to me

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and uh saying you listen to the podcast

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and you know whenever someone reaches

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out I try to do my homework be like all

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right who is this person are they gonna

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you know show up at my doorstep and uh

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say that they were abducted by aliens

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um not to make light of that guys um I

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am a UFO person through and through but

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you do have to be careful yeah so yeah I

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looked into you and I'm like oh whoa

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this dude like makes horror films and of

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course being the

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um Scrappy Young artist Young I can't

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even use that word anymore the scrappy

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artist Sam I'm like I have a horse I can

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use this person

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send it off to you and we've been

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friends and future colleagues ever since

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yep I remember reading that yeah I read

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that and I read it to Bethany said this

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guy could write oh it's so good holy

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[\h__\h] he's a really good writer so we

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yeah we're developing it everything is

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in development but when it when it

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actually happens it's gonna be real good

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I'm excited I'm really excited

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holds you know yep and Nick is involved

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it too as well uh Nick and I have made a

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movie in the past so

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um I'm really excited to continue

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working with him as well looks like he

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might be frozen here

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yeah look at the look on his face

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glitch I love it that literally could be

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a horror movie right there yeah

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try to um hop out and hop in Nick if you

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can buddy and like the dark brooding

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nicely into Halloween ends because I do

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love a brooding male Trope like I love

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like a heath Cliff like a dark boy who

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needs to be saved it's one of my

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favorite things that's why you fell for

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me and that's what I fell for you and uh

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Halloween ends has that in Spades oh my

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gosh well okay well let's just do it

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let's do it I'm sure Nick will be back

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Nick if you're listening to this try

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hopping out and hopping back in buddy

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hopefully will get you back very soon

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um but let's do it guys let's hop into

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Halloween ends I'm gonna go through some

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of the um the technical stuff here sir

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David Gordon green written by David

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Gordon green Danny McBride Paul Brett

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Logan and Chris Bernier which

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four writers on this movie well so many

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cooks in that kitchen yeah

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Dennis we'll we'll talk about that now

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because it should not take four people

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to write a horror movie and not this one

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because this was a real like simple you

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about this movie I know we're getting

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um this is the finale apparently of

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which started with Halloween 2018

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Halloween kills and this is Halloween

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ends uh notable returning cast members

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for this film are Jamie Lee Curtis of

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course my queen is Lori Strode queen

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Allison which is Lori's granddaughter uh

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Will Patton as Deputy Frank Hawkins

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probably one of my favorite characters

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uh James Jude Courtney as the shape and

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introducing Rowan Campbell as Corey

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Cunningham which is going to be in the

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bulk of what we're talking about tonight

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sorry

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cinematography Michael Simmons which is

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another big part of this movie yeah

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we'll discuss and of course music in

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score by John and Cody Carpenter uh the

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music the music is fantastic oh God you

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put if you put John and his son you know

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uh uh in charge of the of the music of

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this franchise you're set you know what

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I mean he's done he's done all this he's

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done the scores for pretty much up to I

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think Halloween three seasons of which I

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don't know how he how much he had to do

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I dropped off after Season of the Witch

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so I I mean I've watched four through

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all of them but like I just I don't

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really there in and out uh the

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introduction of Halloween four is

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fantastic if you want to get in the

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spooky season mood that's just like one

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of the best intros it feels like you're

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in October but um but if you just put

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him in charge of this of scoring

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anything that's horror it's great his

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album that he did I can't recommend it

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enough like he's got an album out of

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just spooking he sent music and it's

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it's great absolutely great have you

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seen uh the Youtube videos of him doing

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like live concerts of it no where he's

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literally it's so like uh what would you

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call like EDM like he's just it's just a

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fair stage with John Carpenter all these

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strobes going and then just this old man

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John Carpenter sitting there like

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and every now and again like kind of

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bobbing his head but the whole crowd is

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this John Carpenter live doing his music

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oh that's so cool yeah yeah I know it's

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interesting because the the I'm getting

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ready for my December uh episode of my

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in on my YouTube channel which is going

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to be the thing uh because it is a yes

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because it's cold weather horror right

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so like I was like the thing is my

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favorite cold weather horror film uh and

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we he I listened to an interview with

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him about an excellent interview and I

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felt such a connection with him because

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he's a musician who's also a director

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and I'm a musician as well and I do some

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scoring for my own films once in a while

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um but he also said something

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interesting and I think you as a writer

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would love this he would you know the

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interviewer was like Hey so do you like

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um do you like writing you know your

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movies he goes oh God no I hate it I if

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I could have a writer every time I love

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writing he's terrible you just in a room

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by yourself it's the worst and I was

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like God I love this man he's just like

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so grumpy he's such a awesome grumpy man

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who like just knows what he wants to do

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and it's just he's such a

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straightforward guy such a straight

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shooter like I just I just love that man

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I love that man

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no not at all man I mean it's oh it's

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always worth talking about John

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Carpenter because I mean he is the

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reason we're here today uh one of the

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funny things I've found is his disdain

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for Halloween too and we'll get to

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Halloween ends guys it's been a long

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journey to that point but uh just how

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we shouldn't technically have any of

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these movies yeah we shouldn't be

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talking about this one tonight we

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shouldn't be talking about curse of

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Michael Myers we shouldn't even be

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talking about Halloween 2. John

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Carpenter wanted this to be a one-off uh

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and obviously you know the studio was

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like we made the biggest boatload of

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money ever for yeah horror movie yeah uh

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we're making a damn simple yeah and you

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know again gun to his head you're

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writing it and he didn't want to do it

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so I mean he's even gone on record

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saying he was absolutely

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wasted drunk writing Halloween too being

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like the [\h__\h] am I doing yeah I don't

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know here he he somehow survived uh I

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don't know how we're not going to

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explain it it's so funny that this is

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the this is the the series where it's

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now just a joke that he that Michael

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Myers always comes back somehow and um

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and that this is the one character that

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John Carpenter was like he's dead now

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right we killed him no he's definitely

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dead the script says he's for sure dead

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this time though he's dead and it's like

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no he's back like it's just it's the um

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Martha Stewart effect where like the

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more you want something to be different

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the more people focus on the way they

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want it

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um it was very funny to me I I love that

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yeah

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I so I am I'm not a huge Halloween 2 fan

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I think it's cool like the one location

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but it also felt like a lot of like hey

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let's put tits in this you know like

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because like the first one didn't have

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any like it didn't have any like sex it

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was like well it did have sex but it but

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it wasn't exploited yeah exploited

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exploitative yeah yeah it wasn't yet the

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whole like have sex you will die right

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yeah what would you call a Trope yeah it

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would kind of Spawn yeah yeah and it was

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it was more Halloween the first one and

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this is I I say this repeatedly and I

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know eventually when you know I when

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when people when I have enough stuff out

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there on YouTube everyone's going to

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call me out first using atmosphere too

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much because that's that's my number one

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rule of a horror film you have to have

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the atmosphere if you build atmosphere

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you can't go wrong you just can't go

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wrong and that first film has it you

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barely see so people get mad that you

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didn't see a lot of Michael Myers in

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this film right in in Halloween ends you

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don't see him a lot in the first one

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either if you remember it's a lot of him

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he's at the end there's a lot of Michael

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Myers at the beginning it's him behind

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stuff it's him in trees it's him

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stalking it's your point of view most of

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the time it's not a lot of of him and

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that's what made it work is because they

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had a low budget they had to save all

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the big stuff for the end and it was it

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was a slow build to this ending that was

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amazing and then we finally get him at

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the end that we earned Michael Myers

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right we earned him at the end

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um which is why I think they went

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completely wrong with the series uh with

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this new David Gordon green series and

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look I'm not I'm not an expert I haven't

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even made a feature film yet it is it is

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a nightmare to make a film of any level

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it's it's insane

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however my hot take is had Halloween

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ends been the first film in the series

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this would have worked yes because then

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we would have had his whole Arc Michael

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Myers could have come back slowly and we

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would have earned him at the end and we

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would have had this new guy to focus on

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which was you know the new shape of evil

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and his and his Arc and it I think if

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they had spread it out that way I think

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they just went ass backwards you know I

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feel like they opened up with the

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spectacle of 2018 which was I hated it I

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hated Halloween in 2018. I hated

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Halloween ends I mean uh Halloween kills

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yeah hated them I actually liked

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Halloween ends that blows my mind loved

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it I was like I like this one

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all right

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well you mentioned backside Dennis I

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gotta ask brother show us the back of

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that jacket oh my God yes okay show us

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your body Dennis

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excite Dennis

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body look at that look at that amazing

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hold on hold on there we go yeah look

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how pretty that is

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I love it I love it I'm trying over here

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I've got like this look at you the

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standard shirt

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um and I'm just wearing black because

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oh sorry

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what's up Nick I've all my computers

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failed so now I'm on my phone oh

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hey it looks great my man welcome we're

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happy to have you back I I knew you

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would make it work somehow

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um well Nick so we've discussed um kind

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of the the beginnings of Halloween you

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know the first movie how it will

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eventually tie into this one uh and kind

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of um we talked about uh Judd Carpenter

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for a little bit just catching up the

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audience and you to what has been

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discussed so far I've got so many notes

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guys it's insane I can't wait

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um I love a deep dive yeah well we'll

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see how deep it gets Dennis because like

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I kind of gave up on the notes after the

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third time watching this but uh let's

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let's talk about um yeah go ahead Nick

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oh I was just saying how many times have

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you viewed this cinematic work of art I

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liked it before

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oh yeah I remember the um watching it I

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texted you guys I'm like I am loving

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this

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watched it again and I liked it oh it's

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oh I don't like it that's how a movie

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should be in my opinion but um I think

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so my you know why I'm the solo Camp I

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think where I did not like this movie I

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think I'll agree with you did you like

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any of the new Halloween movies no so

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the first two let's start there yeah

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2018. the first of this Trilogy when I

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heard Danny McBride was involved I'm

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like what the hell like the dude from

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like gemstones and um eastbounded what

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is going on here so yeah yeah and that

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the reason for that is relationships

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right they're everything Gordon green

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and hey go all the way back to Gordon

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Green's first film so like they're

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friends

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okay so what did you guys think let's

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get your impressions of 2018 the first

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in the trilogy I mean I thought it just

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the issue that I had with the first two

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had nothing to had nothing to do with

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anyone acting I think the acting in

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these movies is wonderful I think Jamie

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Lee Curtis walks on water so I like I

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want to get that out of the way and also

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I'm not an expert on this so I just this

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you know this is my opinion whatever I

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felt like there were some major tone

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issues where the first two the 2018 and

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2020

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felt so

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self-serious and the the 2018 felt

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incredibly self-serious like there was

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like some world-changing Cinema

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happening right now

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and the writing didn't live up to that

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and then 2020 was such a strange movie

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because it it felt like the writers or

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the director or someone had all of these

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friends who wanted to be in the movie

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and so there were all of these just like

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strange tiny vignettes of scenes with

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like you know the couple having you know

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putting on a record and wanting to smoke

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pot together and then they get killed

540
00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:39,120
and then the couple who's just like old

541
00:23:42,289 --> 00:23:40,500
together and they're cute and old and

542
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,299
then they get killed and like none of

543
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,400
those characters play into anything else

544
00:23:49,789 --> 00:23:46,559
in the movie it felt like stunt casting

545
00:23:52,370 --> 00:23:49,799
with non-stunty actors but again it had

546
00:23:54,409 --> 00:23:52,380
like this self-seriousness where evil

547
00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:54,419
dies tonight everyone suddenly knows the

548
00:23:58,190 --> 00:23:56,340
phrase evil dies tonight even though no

549
00:24:00,730 --> 00:23:58,200
one said it to each other if I heard

550
00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:00,740
that one more time

551
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:03,780
and then they all just like the there's

552
00:24:07,850 --> 00:24:05,520
just this bizarre scene of them

553
00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:07,860
murdering a different patient in the

554
00:24:12,649 --> 00:24:09,480
hospital in a really like just

555
00:24:17,409 --> 00:24:12,659
disgusting way it all felt so

556
00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:17,419
serious and unrealistic and and I I I

557
00:24:23,450 --> 00:24:19,980
and I watched both of those twice and I

558
00:24:26,270 --> 00:24:23,460
was just like why isn't this fun like

559
00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:26,280
the original Halloween was

560
00:24:31,549 --> 00:24:29,340
fun because it was a horror movie and it

561
00:24:34,850 --> 00:24:31,559
was like discovering this character and

562
00:24:37,789 --> 00:24:34,860
discovering the relationships and the

563
00:24:40,669 --> 00:24:37,799
first two new Halloweens just like lost

564
00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:40,679
that sense of playfulness to me in a in

565
00:24:43,970 --> 00:24:42,360
a way that just sort of bummed me out

566
00:24:46,250 --> 00:24:43,980
and

567
00:24:49,250 --> 00:24:46,260
I feel like Halloween ends was

568
00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:49,260
significantly better like so much better

569
00:24:54,770 --> 00:24:52,380
the best of the three but still had such

570
00:24:58,190 --> 00:24:54,780
a self-serious quality to to me that I

571
00:25:01,549 --> 00:24:58,200
just was like oh man this I had I don't

572
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:01,559
I don't know man I was bomb yeah yeah I

573
00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:05,039
I was really let down by 2018 in fact I

574
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:06,840
wasn't even gonna see it like I was like

575
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:08,880
I'm not gonna watch these because I just

576
00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:10,200
want to keep it at Halloween and

577
00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:11,580
Halloween three and those are my two

578
00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:13,260
movies right like I'm just I'm a

579
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:14,580
stickler for that kind of stuff but I

580
00:25:18,529 --> 00:25:16,799
said you know what as a person who's a

581
00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:18,539
filmmaker let me watch this you know

582
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,340
what I mean let me let me see what this

583
00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:22,080
does

584
00:25:26,269 --> 00:25:24,120
and it was so lacking I mean from the

585
00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:26,279
opening of like we're podcasters going

586
00:25:30,049 --> 00:25:28,380
to interview Michael Myers I was like oh

587
00:25:33,049 --> 00:25:30,059
God don't kill me I was like the

588
00:25:34,970 --> 00:25:33,059
modernity of this is like like just kill

589
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,980
me don't do this I mean you as a

590
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,200
podcaster Ryan it's like they seemed

591
00:25:42,350 --> 00:25:39,360
when when okay here's the thing when

592
00:25:45,049 --> 00:25:42,360
Hollywood people right

593
00:25:47,149 --> 00:25:45,059
what they think is a podcaster they've

594
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,159
never done a podcast and they've no they

595
00:25:51,470 --> 00:25:49,440
don't know any podcasters like I feel

596
00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:51,480
like they wrote those people and it was

597
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,700
like this is not what podcasters look or

598
00:25:58,250 --> 00:25:55,679
sound like if it was it felt like it was

599
00:25:59,810 --> 00:25:58,260
written with judgment you know it just

600
00:26:02,450 --> 00:25:59,820
felt like it was the Hollywood it was

601
00:26:05,149 --> 00:26:02,460
the the Hollywood Dollar Store version

602
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,159
of podcasters and then like it totally

603
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:07,200
is like like yeah

604
00:26:11,810 --> 00:26:08,880
also the audio quality would have been

605
00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:13,850
like this is so this is all off this is

606
00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:15,480
all wrong and then the weight and then

607
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:18,900
so I did enjoy I enjoyed Jamie Lee

608
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,320
Curtis as the Survivor she reminded me I

609
00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:24,720
think it was a very like it was very uh

610
00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:27,240
Sarah Connor in Terminator 2. of course

611
00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:29,400
that would be her that would be her Arc

612
00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:33,539
right yeah however she was too much it

613
00:26:39,649 --> 00:26:37,080
was I I wish Gordon green said take it

614
00:26:41,930 --> 00:26:39,659
down a little bit take that take the

615
00:26:46,190 --> 00:26:41,940
anger like take this down a little bit

616
00:26:48,049 --> 00:26:46,200
because I didn't believe it there was so

617
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,059
much hatred between her and her daughter

618
00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:50,400
and and her and her and her

619
00:26:56,690 --> 00:26:53,100
granddaughter it was just all it all

620
00:26:59,390 --> 00:26:56,700
felt so heavy and so overblown and what

621
00:27:02,269 --> 00:26:59,400
I was missing was the tone of that first

622
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,279
one it was a small move you could tell

623
00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:04,320
this was written by committee where

624
00:27:09,890 --> 00:27:06,900
Halloween was written by a guy in a room

625
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:09,900
with an imagination this was written by

626
00:27:14,269 --> 00:27:11,640
committee it was like put through the

627
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:14,279
ring ringer of the studio system it was

628
00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:18,000
just not what it didn't have what I felt

629
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:20,460
a Halloween movie should have which is

630
00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:23,279
the slow building atmosphere

631
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,980
fair enough Nick a lot of characters at

632
00:27:30,610 --> 00:27:27,440
once yeah

633
00:27:35,289 --> 00:27:30,620
sorry too many no no no not at all nick

634
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:35,299
uh let's go from Halloween 1978 and then

635
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:40,080
Halloween 2018 is literally the sequel

636
00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:43,020
to that movie so you have a long period

637
00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:46,200
of time between these two movies what do

638
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:50,700
you think about uh the 2018 being the

639
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:52,620
sequel to something that happened in

640
00:27:59,390 --> 00:27:55,679
1978 and uh yeah would you think of the

641
00:28:01,490 --> 00:27:59,400
initial movie of the new Halloween so I

642
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,500
really like the 2018 film

643
00:28:04,909 --> 00:28:03,840
um but again I also like I'm approaching

644
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:04,919
from a very different perspective than

645
00:28:12,430 --> 00:28:06,000
like

646
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,440
so I think that with slasher films so

647
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,460
the reason why I like this I think

648
00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:16,559
writing that genre is really hard now I

649
00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:17,640
don't know how you guys feel about that

650
00:28:22,190 --> 00:28:19,620
but like writing a good

651
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,200
slasher film is difficult and what I

652
00:28:25,549 --> 00:28:24,240
liked about the 2018 movie comparative

653
00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:25,559
to

654
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:27,480
so I like I haven't seen the Halloween 3

655
00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:29,820
Dennis so I I failed you I still failed

656
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,820
you that's okay H3 season to the witch

657
00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:34,559
is my favorite of all Halloween I just

658
00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:36,900
recently saw it for the first time so

659
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,659
don't worry Nick but I liked how I liked

660
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:41,279
the original Halloween movie I like the

661
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,600
second one into

662
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:43,679
um they were like my first horror movies

663
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:45,120
I ever watched

664
00:28:49,070 --> 00:28:45,840
um

665
00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:49,080
so anyway ah my brain's now all

666
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:50,520
flustered um what I liked about it

667
00:28:54,529 --> 00:28:53,159
though is I thought it to me it captured

668
00:28:56,029 --> 00:28:54,539
some of the feeling that I have in that

669
00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:56,039
original Halloween movie so I loved

670
00:29:01,310 --> 00:28:58,380
about the first Halloween movie is I

671
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:01,320
love the anticipation of getting to the

672
00:29:04,669 --> 00:29:02,640
action of that film there's so much

673
00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:04,679
build in that first Halloween movie it

674
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:08,460
is beautifully executed in terms of like

675
00:29:12,649 --> 00:29:11,039
building tension which is why I think it

676
00:29:14,090 --> 00:29:12,659
still works and for whatever reason the

677
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:14,100
2018

678
00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:16,440
Halloween did that for me in similar

679
00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:17,880
ways and then the other reason I liked

680
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:19,559
it because I'm a sucker for this is the

681
00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:20,880
acting scope Bethany which is what you

682
00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:23,580
said the acting edit is really

683
00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:25,380
good and

684
00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:30,120
kind of fall into that trap of like if I

685
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:31,740
like the dialogue between characters and

686
00:29:35,330 --> 00:29:33,600
and the performances are really good I

687
00:29:37,490 --> 00:29:35,340
can quickly buy into it

688
00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:37,500
um my problem with how this Halloween or

689
00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:38,940
any of the other ones I think just

690
00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:41,580
making a good slasher film is hard I

691
00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:44,340
think it's just hard to to do that genre

692
00:29:46,990 --> 00:29:45,480
right now and do it well and for

693
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,000
whatever reason 2018

694
00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:49,679
worked for me I thought it it hit the

695
00:29:54,970 --> 00:29:52,500
notes I wanted in this type of film um

696
00:29:57,769 --> 00:29:54,980
the second one

697
00:29:59,389 --> 00:29:57,779
hey I also

698
00:30:01,370 --> 00:29:59,399
one of my things with this film and the

699
00:30:04,010 --> 00:30:01,380
second one is I don't know thematic like

700
00:30:06,049 --> 00:30:04,020
I know what it is now but I I don't

701
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:06,059
understand thematically what's happening

702
00:30:09,649 --> 00:30:07,919
and that's my biggest issue with all the

703
00:30:11,570 --> 00:30:09,659
films and this new Trilogy is I don't

704
00:30:13,370 --> 00:30:11,580
know like what story are you telling is

705
00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:13,380
it Jamie the Curtis Is It Michael Myers

706
00:30:18,110 --> 00:30:15,960
is it the town I don't boom yeah exactly

707
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:18,120
I don't know exactly they don't know

708
00:30:23,810 --> 00:30:21,299
um and we'll connect their notes all

709
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:23,820
over the place yeah I I do want to

710
00:30:28,010 --> 00:30:26,399
discuss this as a this Trilogy as a

711
00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:28,020
whole for sure

712
00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:30,360
um but I think you're right Nick I I

713
00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:33,299
felt the same way about 2018.

714
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:35,580
um I really enjoyed it and I think it

715
00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:39,840
was because you have kind of this Force

716
00:30:45,049 --> 00:30:43,500
awakens hi you know you're seeing these

717
00:30:46,669 --> 00:30:45,059
characters for the first time in a

718
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,679
really long time

719
00:30:50,570 --> 00:30:48,480
um and everyone has said it you know

720
00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:50,580
Star Wars force awakens Disney's first

721
00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:53,340
attempt at you know introducing us to

722
00:30:59,090 --> 00:30:56,460
their Star Wars Universe it was almost

723
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,100
beat for beat the same as the original A

724
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:01,679
New Hope and a lot of people liked that

725
00:31:06,169 --> 00:31:03,600
they liked that they kept it to the

726
00:31:08,990 --> 00:31:06,179
formula they stuck to it they felt that

727
00:31:11,630 --> 00:31:09,000
nostalgic high again giving us some old

728
00:31:14,029 --> 00:31:11,640
characters mixed with some new and uh

729
00:31:18,669 --> 00:31:14,039
and then you know and then they just

730
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:22,250
how do you not put Han how do you not

731
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:24,059
put Han Luke and Leia in the same

732
00:31:28,330 --> 00:31:25,440
goddamn movie but that's a whole other

733
00:31:32,029 --> 00:31:30,169
that's something that you brought Ryan

734
00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:32,039
that I you know I liked so for me as if

735
00:31:34,970 --> 00:31:33,000
you're someone who liked that first

736
00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:34,980
movie is I felt like force making is a

737
00:31:39,529 --> 00:31:38,279
great way I feel like oh it it felt it's

738
00:31:41,570 --> 00:31:39,539
funny because you guys are writers and

739
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:41,580
I'm not so I didn't get the writing room

740
00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:43,380
by committee but to me I feel like oh

741
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:45,720
I'm back in they simplified the world

742
00:31:50,330 --> 00:31:47,760
right because the Halloween movies

743
00:31:53,510 --> 00:31:50,340
all of a sudden get me like it's his

744
00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:53,520
sister again other three four five and

745
00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:55,140
six which are

746
00:31:58,370 --> 00:31:56,580
other than Paul Wright because he's a

747
00:32:01,010 --> 00:31:58,380
National Treasure are just batshit crazy

748
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:01,020
like yeah and so I like thoughts and

749
00:32:05,870 --> 00:32:02,480
super yeah

750
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,880
it's real real bad yeah those crazy so I

751
00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:08,159
like those like oh this is simpler right

752
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,020
and it is simplified and I can buy into

753
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,760
the world and like I it was able for me

754
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:13,679
to be like you said I'm like oh I know

755
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,080
this world it's and I like that it's

756
00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:19,200
it's simple which I'll get to what as

757
00:32:23,510 --> 00:32:21,240
this went crazy but that first movie was

758
00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:23,520
just it was a simple like here's this

759
00:32:27,289 --> 00:32:25,980
dude he's back in the Asylum like he's

760
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:27,299
gonna go he's gonna go kill some people

761
00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:32,510
it's not anything weird he's just

762
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,360
support the nature nature yeah okay yeah

763
00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:39,360
let's let's okay let's move to Halloween

764
00:32:44,029 --> 00:32:42,059
kills quickly because I know that's not

765
00:32:47,690 --> 00:32:44,039
why people are watching but Halloween

766
00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:47,700
kills I think was just Gordon Green's

767
00:32:53,450 --> 00:32:50,279
carte blanche like you're you're

768
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:53,460
building a bridge it's clear that again

769
00:32:58,370 --> 00:32:56,159
Halloween 2018 was very well received

770
00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:58,380
for the most part it made a [\h__\h] ton of

771
00:33:03,409 --> 00:33:00,840
money and just like the original with

772
00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:03,419
John Carpenter they're like all right

773
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,980
um we gotta make a sequel

774
00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:07,200
um money's there we gotta do it and this

775
00:33:11,810 --> 00:33:09,240
is the curse of Studios this is the

776
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:11,820
problem you create such a good Rich

777
00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:14,580
story in the original and then it just

778
00:33:18,409 --> 00:33:16,860
goes nuts after that and I think that's

779
00:33:21,529 --> 00:33:18,419
what we got with Halloween kills the

780
00:33:23,330 --> 00:33:21,539
movie was made they were they decided

781
00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:23,340
this is going to be a Trilogy we need to

782
00:33:27,230 --> 00:33:24,899
make it a Trilogy because there's money

783
00:33:28,850 --> 00:33:27,240
to be had yeah

784
00:33:30,169 --> 00:33:28,860
what's that Nick because everything's

785
00:33:31,730 --> 00:33:30,179
got to be a Trilogy now like

786
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,740
everything's got to be a Trilogy yeah

787
00:33:36,169 --> 00:33:33,840
when you show Halloween kills kind of

788
00:33:38,029 --> 00:33:36,179
served as that bridge not a lot is going

789
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:38,039
to happen character-wise

790
00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:39,960
um we're gonna go crazy with the kills

791
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:41,820
hence the title

792
00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:44,159
um and in that respect I think they did

793
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,500
a great job like holy [\h__\h] was that a

794
00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:48,000
freaking like just killed a lot of

795
00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:50,820
people yeah yeah yeah the opening scenes

796
00:33:55,970 --> 00:33:53,580
the kills with the firemen was amazing I

797
00:33:57,889 --> 00:33:55,980
mean as a as a cinematographer and a

798
00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:57,899
person who loves watching cinematography

799
00:34:02,990 --> 00:34:00,539
play out those were outstanding like

800
00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:03,000
it's out it is beautifully shot like

801
00:34:10,609 --> 00:34:05,700
kills is really well shot

802
00:34:13,369 --> 00:34:10,619
um it my issue with that one is all of

803
00:34:16,490 --> 00:34:13,379
it it is just like and and here's the

804
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:16,500
thing Ryan Ryan they actually so McBride

805
00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:19,080
and and Company and David gorgary they

806
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,700
actually did Pitch this as far as I know

807
00:34:24,290 --> 00:34:22,800
this is what I know they did Pitch this

808
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,300
as a Trilogy they were like we want to

809
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:26,159
do a Trilogy we want to bring it back we

810
00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:27,599
have Halloween uh Halloween Halloween

811
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,700
Halloween kills and Halloween ends those

812
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:31,440
are the titles

813
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,320
what I think happens with David Gordon

814
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:36,240
green and which I respect if you look at

815
00:34:41,149 --> 00:34:37,679
his filmography

816
00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:41,159
uh he does stuff like Joe and then he

817
00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:43,500
does stuff like Halloween he's all over

818
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:45,960
the place he's I think he and I like

819
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,820
that he's a journeyman he just does

820
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,919
whatever he wants to do when he's in the

821
00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:50,879
mood

822
00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:53,700
does that work for a Trilogy no you have

823
00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:55,260
to stay focused and they have to stay

824
00:35:00,829 --> 00:34:57,720
connected that's how trilogies work you

825
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,839
know what I mean so I think he went off

826
00:35:04,910 --> 00:35:03,359
the [\h__\h] rails for kills kills feels

827
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:04,920
like it was written by four people yeah

828
00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:07,680
you know and there's a lot of McBride in

829
00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:09,540
that goddamn movie and yeah and I think

830
00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:11,160
that they were like I think we gave him

831
00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:13,079
a little too much in the writing writers

832
00:35:17,870 --> 00:35:15,780
there's a lot of like yeah there's a God

833
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,880
I feel I don't want I like all these

834
00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:19,200
people I hope I get to work with them

835
00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:20,760
one day but yeah you know like this is

836
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:22,380
my honest opinion because here's the

837
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:23,760
other thing and I'm gonna give like one

838
00:35:28,089 --> 00:35:26,760
more caveat is it it is you know Nick to

839
00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:28,099
your point I think it's really difficult

840
00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:32,420
to to write a a horror film

841
00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:36,420
especially right now and especially then

842
00:35:43,089 --> 00:35:39,660
like in in terms of like 2018 through 20

843
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:43,099
20 21 because there was so much

844
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,720
societally going on and we don't know

845
00:35:49,849 --> 00:35:47,520
how much

846
00:35:52,010 --> 00:35:49,859
um they were getting notes saying make

847
00:35:54,290 --> 00:35:52,020
it more make it more of a social

848
00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:54,300
commentary make sure that right we don't

849
00:35:58,430 --> 00:35:55,859
know what kind of

850
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,440
um interference was happening with with

851
00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:00,560
the project but

852
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:04,200
going to Halloween ends and knowing we

853
00:36:10,430 --> 00:36:06,900
have a character that we end up with in

854
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,440
Corey it would have been such a gift to

855
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:12,960
have Corey join us at the beginning so

856
00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:15,839
that we have this guy because when we

857
00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:18,540
when we meet Corey I immediately was

858
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:21,420
like dream guy like I like a guy with

859
00:36:26,329 --> 00:36:23,460
dark hair glasses who's a little nerdy

860
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:26,339
and a little wounded right

861
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,240
I like a brooding man and I'm so wounded

862
00:36:35,810 --> 00:36:32,000
so wounded

863
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:35,820
so Corey shows up we immediately

864
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:38,040
understand that the accident that

865
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:40,500
happened to him and with from him and

866
00:36:45,650 --> 00:36:42,900
with him happened because this child was

867
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:45,660
a brat the child was monstrous and an

868
00:36:48,589 --> 00:36:46,920
accident happened and so we're

869
00:36:50,089 --> 00:36:48,599
immediately on his side because everyone

870
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:50,099
thinks he's a monster but we know the

871
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:51,540
kid was a brat he was a sympathetic

872
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:53,040
character which is what we need in a

873
00:36:58,130 --> 00:36:55,140
horror film so if you can see the ark

874
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:58,140
that happened with him happening in the

875
00:37:01,790 --> 00:37:00,000
first movie we really like him maybe

876
00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:01,800
he's a peripheral character in the

877
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:03,720
second movie he becomes more integral

878
00:37:09,710 --> 00:37:06,960
maybe he's involved in the Asylum

879
00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:09,720
situation where the other patient gets

880
00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:11,640
killed in one way or another we see him

881
00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:13,380
interacting with that and then we

882
00:37:19,069 --> 00:37:15,420
realize in number three that he has

883
00:37:22,270 --> 00:37:19,079
turned that to me would be so fulfilling

884
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,280
because what a great character that was

885
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:25,440
and I think the parts of Halloween ends

886
00:37:29,870 --> 00:37:28,320
that I liked were were his parts and the

887
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:29,880
things I didn't like were that it was

888
00:37:36,109 --> 00:37:32,280
all like a whiplash inducing character

889
00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:36,119
Arc that happened so quickly and it's

890
00:37:41,569 --> 00:37:39,180
such a lost opportunity with the number

891
00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:41,579
of characters in Halloween kills we had

892
00:37:47,410 --> 00:37:44,520
like 77 different characters oh my God

893
00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:47,420
that was insane I was like I don't know

894
00:37:53,690 --> 00:37:51,540
I want Corey yeah right there's no

895
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,700
there's no like storyline wise there's

896
00:37:57,530 --> 00:37:55,440
no like that's what I'm saying like

897
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:57,540
who's what story is it like Is It

898
00:38:01,730 --> 00:37:59,760
Michael Myers is it now Corey's story is

899
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:01,740
it the story of Haddonfield like I felt

900
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:02,400
like

901
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,480
not Haddonfield story it's not that is

902
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:08,640
Michael Myers versus James of course and

903
00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:09,960
her fan like the story what I loved

904
00:38:14,349 --> 00:38:11,700
about Halloween 2018 is the story of

905
00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:14,359
women right like these generational

906
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:17,160
these generational story of women like a

907
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:18,720
grandmother a mother and a daughter and

908
00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:21,839
how right affects this family and so I'm

909
00:38:26,270 --> 00:38:24,420
like oh okay I can dig that right that's

910
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:26,280
good to me that's good storytelling

911
00:38:32,329 --> 00:38:27,780
because you're adding

912
00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:32,339
a layer of complexity to Michael Myers

913
00:38:34,970 --> 00:38:33,960
in a slasher film which great that's

914
00:38:36,410 --> 00:38:34,980
what I want it's a great Point like

915
00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:36,420
that's a good that's a great one yeah

916
00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:38,760
yeah giving me my like give me what I

917
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:40,260
like my Storyteller thing I'm loving

918
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:41,820
that and then he gets Halloween kills

919
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,040
and like that's [\h__\h] gone like

920
00:38:48,290 --> 00:38:46,560
there's generally some of it and I'm

921
00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:48,300
like okay is this story about the town

922
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,940
who's this about and then you have Corey

923
00:38:54,650 --> 00:38:52,560
in this next one where I'm like oh so

924
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:54,660
now it's his story and now we're back to

925
00:38:59,329 --> 00:38:57,480
like Supernatural like Michael Myers is

926
00:39:01,550 --> 00:38:59,339
not just uh he's like there's some

927
00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:01,560
Supernatural elements I would have loved

928
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,240
like you said either give me Corey to

929
00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:05,040
begin with right and I'm following this

930
00:39:10,190 --> 00:39:07,740
character's Journey or make it about

931
00:39:12,890 --> 00:39:10,200
Haddonfield from the beginning and and

932
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:12,900
how this trauma affects that town or

933
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:15,359
keep it simple make it about this the

934
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:18,420
effects on which I guess Halloween ends

935
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:21,180
kinda does the effects on this family

936
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,520
right like generational trauma on

937
00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:25,440
families because to me

938
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:27,180
trauma especially coming out of

939
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,320
everything like you talk about like

940
00:39:32,990 --> 00:39:29,760
everything's been going on like in the

941
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:33,000
trash fire of trash buyers like how

942
00:39:37,609 --> 00:39:35,820
trauma affects people generationally is

943
00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:37,619
super interesting and then you can tie

944
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:38,700
in

945
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,680
like the horror that horror element

946
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:42,960
because then you're writing

947
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:44,520
you're putting your characters in a

948
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:47,220
specific genre and like they lost that

949
00:39:51,050 --> 00:39:49,560
trauma element I feel like

950
00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:51,060
after the first film and I didn't know

951
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:52,260
where it was going and so for Halloween

952
00:39:56,450 --> 00:39:54,780
ends I'm like okay I guess Corey stole

953
00:39:58,670 --> 00:39:56,460
the trauma of the town but it's not

954
00:40:00,170 --> 00:39:58,680
about the women anymore it's about him

955
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:00,180
but still kind of about them it's just

956
00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:02,460
all over the place there's no there's no

957
00:40:05,450 --> 00:40:04,200
focus and I can tell my students we're

958
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:05,460
talking about acting and storytelling

959
00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:07,440
like you've got to be specific right

960
00:40:11,569 --> 00:40:10,020
when you're an actor like specificity so

961
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:11,579
like if you're an actor's specificity on

962
00:40:14,569 --> 00:40:12,720
a character what's my character want

963
00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:14,579
what's my character need if you're a

964
00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:16,380
writer and director specifically on that

965
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:18,359
story right like yeah what is the story

966
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,680
trying to tell and if it's a Trilogy

967
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,359
it's like the first Star Wars Trilogy

968
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,240
like okay what are my acts and what are

969
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,400
my Beats and who is the story about I

970
00:40:30,829 --> 00:40:28,560
don't know who this story is about in

971
00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:30,839
terms of all three films as singular

972
00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:33,060
films I can figure it out but I guess

973
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:34,920
that's what fails me especially in that

974
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,200
second film where I'm like yeah and you

975
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:39,119
have to tie the main thing in the

976
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:40,560
trilogy you have to tie a thread they

977
00:40:44,690 --> 00:40:42,480
have to feel like a family even as as

978
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:44,700
much as like you know Return of the Jedi

979
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:46,440
isn't that great it still feels like

980
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:49,440
it's part of the it's empire is the best

981
00:40:53,630 --> 00:40:52,079
sorry the first one ever yeah it

982
00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:53,640
returned the Jedi's a kid's movie you

983
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:56,339
know what I mean the kids movie it's

984
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,160
great talking about in that trilogy

985
00:41:08,410 --> 00:41:01,200
what's Kitty about Teddy Bears right

986
00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:11,990
so so I think that what what went wrong

987
00:41:18,670 --> 00:41:13,980
was they were like we got the titles but

988
00:41:22,849 --> 00:41:21,530
right and I and I enjoy and it feels it

989
00:41:24,770 --> 00:41:22,859
really feels like it was riding on the

990
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:24,780
Fly and and like you can really tell

991
00:41:29,329 --> 00:41:27,180
that it was rushed like and now that's

992
00:41:31,849 --> 00:41:29,339
what makes me sad because like you said

993
00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:31,859
Bethany what a missed opportunity had we

994
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:34,020
started with Michael Myers in a [\h__\h]

995
00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:35,820
sewer and that's what that's where he

996
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,740
disappeared to in 1978 he's been living

997
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,359
underground he comes out on Halloween

998
00:41:44,030 --> 00:41:41,760
every Halloween someone disappears he

999
00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:44,040
feeds off of that it seeps the evil

1000
00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:45,900
seeps through the town and it's all

1001
00:41:49,849 --> 00:41:47,700
building up to Corey and his like

1002
00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:49,859
relationship with Corey and him

1003
00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:51,420
infiltrating the family and Michael

1004
00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:53,460
Myers using him to get back to Lori

1005
00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:55,740
Strode and figure out where she is that

1006
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:56,940
could have happened it would have been

1007
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:03,530
so I've done a lot of voice over for

1008
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,240
Live Events and the the way that the

1009
00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:08,160
thing that's really fun about it is that

1010
00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:10,140
I sit in I sit with a headset and I get

1011
00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:12,660
to see all of the different cameras from

1012
00:42:17,450 --> 00:42:14,579
all the camera operators running around

1013
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:17,460
the auditorium or whatever and you see

1014
00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:19,800
the director choosing which camera

1015
00:42:24,890 --> 00:42:21,960
operators shot they're going to use next

1016
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:24,900
right and what invariably happens if

1017
00:42:30,050 --> 00:42:26,820
it's like a live concert

1018
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,060
is if that concert's being televised you

1019
00:42:32,990 --> 00:42:31,680
get all of these shots and you kind of

1020
00:42:35,089 --> 00:42:33,000
see like you're trying to figure out

1021
00:42:36,829 --> 00:42:35,099
what you want but then invariably you'll

1022
00:42:40,130 --> 00:42:36,839
find like there's one person in the

1023
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:40,140
audience who's awesome and like at award

1024
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:41,640
shows it's usually like Taylor Swift

1025
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:44,400
right where she's like dancing and all

1026
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,140
of a sudden if you're watching at home

1027
00:42:50,089 --> 00:42:48,240
you're seeing tons of shots of Taylor

1028
00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:50,099
Swift dancing and it's because the

1029
00:42:53,569 --> 00:42:52,440
director realized that person is the

1030
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,579
person who's going to give me a good

1031
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:55,200
shot every time I go to that camera

1032
00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:57,660
operator and that's what Corey felt like

1033
00:43:02,450 --> 00:42:59,819
it felt like they were shooting a live

1034
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,460
movie and then they realized oh Corey's

1035
00:43:06,290 --> 00:43:04,319
the one and we're gonna put all in on

1036
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:06,300
Corey and that was a super long story

1037
00:43:12,650 --> 00:43:11,040
just to get to I I I think that this yes

1038
00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:12,660
they were building this parachute as

1039
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,540
they fell down and luckily they landed

1040
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:17,280
on something that I think makes it so

1041
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:19,200
that people will remember at least this

1042
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:20,480
movie well

1043
00:43:29,150 --> 00:43:26,280
but it it it it is too fast too much so

1044
00:43:30,349 --> 00:43:29,160
they fell in love immediately uh as

1045
00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:30,359
someone who

1046
00:43:34,730 --> 00:43:32,700
I'm willing to almost forgive anything

1047
00:43:36,829 --> 00:43:34,740
in a movie I yes and a movie right away

1048
00:43:38,329 --> 00:43:36,839
I love it I'm like I'm sure I'll make

1049
00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:38,339
sure that that makes sense to me no

1050
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,140
problem I don't see any plot holes

1051
00:43:43,849 --> 00:43:42,240
usually for me to feel like this was

1052
00:43:45,770 --> 00:43:43,859
super whiplashy and that she fell in

1053
00:43:47,230 --> 00:43:45,780
love with this guy way too fast yeah oh

1054
00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:47,240
yeah yeah

1055
00:43:51,650 --> 00:43:50,700
that that to me was just Ryan let us

1056
00:43:53,569 --> 00:43:51,660
know if you want us to go through the

1057
00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:53,579
plot at all like you know

1058
00:43:57,410 --> 00:43:55,740
yeah well yes we're gonna we'll go

1059
00:43:59,690 --> 00:43:57,420
through the plot for sure

1060
00:44:02,510 --> 00:43:59,700
um I do want to and I agree with you

1061
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:02,520
Bethany I was like holy like talk about

1062
00:44:07,450 --> 00:44:05,760
Romeo and Juliet like this is insane but

1063
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:07,460
um

1064
00:44:15,290 --> 00:44:13,200
talk about the opening because for me

1065
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,300
personally this was the most effective

1066
00:44:20,270 --> 00:44:17,119
part

1067
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,280
holy [\h__\h] not just the cold opening but

1068
00:44:24,530 --> 00:44:22,079
then the title sequence I want to talk

1069
00:44:26,270 --> 00:44:24,540
about too which everyone is is um

1070
00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:26,280
talking about let's talk about the cold

1071
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:29,220
opening first who introduces us to our

1072
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:33,359
new apparently protagonist antagonist I

1073
00:44:39,230 --> 00:44:35,700
don't know I love Laurie Cunningham

1074
00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:39,240
um the film opens on this young man who

1075
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:41,940
is going to babysit on Halloween so

1076
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,220
right then you're like oh man I thought

1077
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,040
he was all right I know I'm like they're

1078
00:44:51,650 --> 00:44:48,960
gender flipping we got a male babysitter

1079
00:44:55,250 --> 00:44:51,660
he's about to get sliced and diced we're

1080
00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:55,260
going back to Classics great right no

1081
00:45:00,829 --> 00:44:58,680
not not good for him at all um who wants

1082
00:45:01,870 --> 00:45:00,839
to take it this cold opening walk us

1083
00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:01,880
through it

1084
00:45:07,849 --> 00:45:06,780
I was like [\h__\h] it was amazing oh yeah I

1085
00:45:10,010 --> 00:45:07,859
was watching that same thing I was like

1086
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:10,020
okay and again I appreciate homages so I

1087
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:12,000
was like oh great we're going back to

1088
00:45:15,410 --> 00:45:14,160
this very first like the first Halloween

1089
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,420
movie and Jamie Lee curses the

1090
00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:17,040
babysitter analysis guy and this really

1091
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,260
nice guy and all the Hallmarks of Jamie

1092
00:45:23,329 --> 00:45:21,359
Lee Curtis's character in that first

1093
00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:23,339
film and so you meet this kid I'm

1094
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:25,020
talking to the parents they're saying

1095
00:45:28,670 --> 00:45:26,460
you know he's been scared because of the

1096
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:28,680
events of these these previous movies

1097
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:30,180
and the effect again this effect on

1098
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,800
Haddonfield

1099
00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:33,599
um and then they're watching the movie

1100
00:45:37,849 --> 00:45:35,579
and he ends up being a little dick I

1101
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:37,859
mean just like the worst possible kid

1102
00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:41,040
you could ever imagine and then I was

1103
00:45:44,030 --> 00:45:42,540
like oh okay well that's funny and that

1104
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:44,040
felt very Danny McBride to me I was like

1105
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,680
oh okay like that's funny I get it I

1106
00:45:51,230 --> 00:45:48,960
enjoyed that and then he locks Corey he

1107
00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:51,240
disappears and you see a door open so

1108
00:45:53,390 --> 00:45:52,319
now you're like oh Michael Myers is

1109
00:45:54,829 --> 00:45:53,400
there he's gonna kill the babysitter

1110
00:45:56,089 --> 00:45:54,839
because Michael Myers only kills

1111
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,099
babysitters

1112
00:45:59,809 --> 00:45:58,560
um if you haven't seen Halloween kills

1113
00:46:02,870 --> 00:45:59,819
um and then

1114
00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:02,880
he locks Cory in an attic and or Corey's

1115
00:46:05,870 --> 00:46:04,500
trying to get out and then you see this

1116
00:46:08,690 --> 00:46:05,880
moment of

1117
00:46:10,190 --> 00:46:08,700
Panic from Corey but also rage it's a

1118
00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:10,200
really nice kind of little foreshadow to

1119
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,540
what might happen later on like when the

1120
00:46:16,970 --> 00:46:14,640
night a nice person with rage and he

1121
00:46:19,309 --> 00:46:16,980
kicks the door and sends this kid over

1122
00:46:21,770 --> 00:46:19,319
the [\h__\h] rails and down and I sat

1123
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,780
there and just pure just like you know

1124
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,800
you watch a movie and you scream you're

1125
00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:24,240
like oh God

1126
00:46:28,130 --> 00:46:26,520
because like uh I did as a parent

1127
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:28,140
watching stuff but anything happens to a

1128
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,520
kid you're just horrified like you're

1129
00:46:34,370 --> 00:46:31,920
just like and I felt horrified for the

1130
00:46:37,309 --> 00:46:34,380
parents even like it was a dick and I

1131
00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:37,319
felt horrified for Corey I just was I

1132
00:46:40,130 --> 00:46:38,520
was like is this what this movie's gonna

1133
00:46:42,589 --> 00:46:40,140
be this thing's gonna be [\h__\h] amazing

1134
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,599
because I'm already like in it to win it

1135
00:46:47,690 --> 00:46:44,640
and then it then it changed and then and

1136
00:46:48,770 --> 00:46:47,700
then and then and then and then the rest

1137
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:48,780
well

1138
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:51,119
let's let's talk about that end then

1139
00:46:57,410 --> 00:46:54,839
okay so you have this extremely jolting

1140
00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:57,420
and disturbing opening this little kid

1141
00:47:02,809 --> 00:47:00,359
dies oh and then

1142
00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:02,819
um you know we we are looking up at

1143
00:47:08,030 --> 00:47:05,220
Corey from like five flights up looking

1144
00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:08,040
down at the kid he just accidentally

1145
00:47:13,069 --> 00:47:11,339
killed uh apparently accidentally I

1146
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:13,079
think that could be open to some

1147
00:47:16,670 --> 00:47:14,760
interpretation

1148
00:47:19,849 --> 00:47:16,680
um there's some people out there not me

1149
00:47:22,490 --> 00:47:19,859
personally but um let's talk about okay

1150
00:47:24,829 --> 00:47:22,500
so that happens and then boom title

1151
00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:24,839
sequence and

1152
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,440
I was Dennis taking my man yeah as our

1153
00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:30,720
season of the week holy [\h__\h] dude okay

1154
00:47:35,930 --> 00:47:33,240
yeah the opening titles so so here's

1155
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:35,940
here I'm so he was so excited I was so

1156
00:47:41,210 --> 00:47:39,359
excited so uh Mothman 46 in the chat

1157
00:47:42,349 --> 00:47:41,220
said now it's uh now it's finished we

1158
00:47:44,930 --> 00:47:42,359
can continue with the best of the series

1159
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:44,940
Halloween totally agree I am on your

1160
00:47:49,370 --> 00:47:47,880
side uh Ryan just dropped the the link

1161
00:47:51,170 --> 00:47:49,380
to my YouTube channel that's the first

1162
00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:51,180
movie I cover on my horror docu series

1163
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:52,380
this Halloween three seasons of The

1164
00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:54,300
Witch because it's such a great film

1165
00:48:01,130 --> 00:47:58,140
it opens up with the Halloween 3 font

1166
00:48:02,690 --> 00:48:01,140
and I was like holy sh okay cool and

1167
00:48:04,130 --> 00:48:02,700
he's been paying homage to the to

1168
00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:04,140
Halloween 3 throughout the whole series

1169
00:48:10,730 --> 00:48:06,060
The Masks are in the film

1170
00:48:14,329 --> 00:48:10,740
he actually wanted to end this in the

1171
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,339
silver Shamrock uh Factory I heard that

1172
00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:16,319
yes with the with the masks coming out

1173
00:48:20,089 --> 00:48:17,940
and then the last mask that comes out as

1174
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:20,099
a Michael Myers mask and I was like dude

1175
00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:22,200
that's cool why didn't you [\h__\h] do

1176
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,020
that like you took this big swing do

1177
00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:27,359
that give us what we want give the

1178
00:48:31,250 --> 00:48:29,700
Halloween three people what we want so I

1179
00:48:34,849 --> 00:48:31,260
thought that was great I did I was like

1180
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,859
whole okay great homage now also loved

1181
00:48:38,329 --> 00:48:37,200
that opening cinematography right away I

1182
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:38,339
was like this feels like a Halloween

1183
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:40,440
movie The sit they shifted the

1184
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:42,660
cinematography from that slick like TV

1185
00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:45,599
looking cinematography to actual real

1186
00:48:53,210 --> 00:48:50,700
drab 70s creating gray green a lot of

1187
00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:53,220
like it was it was warm and green you

1188
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,380
know and it felt like aha I was like oh

1189
00:48:59,210 --> 00:48:56,640
[\h__\h] we're watching a Halloween movie

1190
00:49:00,890 --> 00:48:59,220
yeah that kid is great too the kid who

1191
00:49:03,530 --> 00:49:00,900
plays Corey yeah he's awesome awesome

1192
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,540
amazing he's awesome I was like this is

1193
00:49:08,569 --> 00:49:05,760
good acting yeah he always wonderful

1194
00:49:11,329 --> 00:49:08,579
very good the acting is great proving

1195
00:49:14,809 --> 00:49:11,339
that David Gordon green can get a great

1196
00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:14,819
performance from someone so I believe in

1197
00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:17,579
him as a director because I and a lot of

1198
00:49:20,510 --> 00:49:19,020
this felt like Joe I don't know if

1199
00:49:22,250 --> 00:49:20,520
you've seen Joe the film with uh

1200
00:49:24,109 --> 00:49:22,260
Nicholas Cage this is when Nicholas Cage

1201
00:49:26,690 --> 00:49:24,119
was in his Renaissance he had just done

1202
00:49:27,950 --> 00:49:26,700
Mandy then Joe came out David gorgeated

1203
00:49:30,290 --> 00:49:27,960
a great movie called it's not

1204
00:49:31,849 --> 00:49:30,300
spectacular it's a good movie but it's a

1205
00:49:33,050 --> 00:49:31,859
great performance from Nicholas Cage and

1206
00:49:34,250 --> 00:49:33,060
if you can get a great performance from

1207
00:49:36,829 --> 00:49:34,260
Nicholas Cage you can get a great

1208
00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:36,839
performance from anyone I say and like

1209
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:39,420
you have to Reign him in you know um but

1210
00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:42,720
yeah but but I love and I will never say

1211
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:44,520
a bad thing about it oh yeah so going

1212
00:49:49,069 --> 00:49:47,280
back to this I thought he was great I

1213
00:49:50,809 --> 00:49:49,079
was like I like this and I and that

1214
00:49:52,609 --> 00:49:50,819
opening was

1215
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,619
[\h__\h] chef's kiss yeah and then you

1216
00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:54,720
get then you get the Halloween three

1217
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:56,520
you know the only three fonts I'm like

1218
00:50:00,650 --> 00:49:58,079
oh my God all right I'm in I'm in you

1219
00:50:02,450 --> 00:50:00,660
want me over right and I think you know

1220
00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:02,460
Gordon green has said like Halloween

1221
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,200
Season of the Witch is one of his

1222
00:50:09,050 --> 00:50:06,720
favorites he did want to kind of pay

1223
00:50:12,109 --> 00:50:09,060
homage to that in this which he did and

1224
00:50:15,290 --> 00:50:12,119
I think on a a deeper level it it kind

1225
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,300
of showed us oh we are not gonna get a

1226
00:50:20,270 --> 00:50:17,599
film

1227
00:50:22,550 --> 00:50:20,280
you know I I think that was him kind of

1228
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,560
subliminally being like get ready guys

1229
00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:24,480
this is not this is going to be a

1230
00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:25,980
departure from what you think it's gonna

1231
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,260
be and I don't give a [\h__\h] what you

1232
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:30,240
think about that yep here's my movie

1233
00:50:35,329 --> 00:50:33,599
yeah and he basically remade those

1234
00:50:37,490 --> 00:50:35,339
originally those original those like

1235
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,500
first three films like if you look

1236
00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:39,359
tonally like the second one is in a

1237
00:50:43,970 --> 00:50:41,700
hospital the third one Michael Myers is

1238
00:50:45,890 --> 00:50:43,980
barely in it I mean in the third in the

1239
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:45,900
third one you know a hot season of which

1240
00:50:49,549 --> 00:50:47,099
he's not even in it there's just a

1241
00:50:51,290 --> 00:50:49,559
trailer to the film so I think he was

1242
00:50:54,410 --> 00:50:51,300
subtly paying homage to those first

1243
00:50:56,750 --> 00:50:54,420
three films as well which is great as a

1244
00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:56,760
nerd as nerds were like that's awesome

1245
00:51:01,609 --> 00:50:59,700
are the are the normies gonna get it no

1246
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,619
like most people are gonna be like what

1247
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,359
the [\h__\h] is going on like someone just

1248
00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:05,280
said in the chat uh the first hour and

1249
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,280
20 was so confusing and I I get that

1250
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,319
because it's like what is going on like

1251
00:51:14,809 --> 00:51:12,480
is this a Halloween movie like

1252
00:51:17,210 --> 00:51:14,819
wow and I will say this I mean there

1253
00:51:19,309 --> 00:51:17,220
have been you know we're we're now in

1254
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,319
the time of like everything is being

1255
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:21,119
rebooted you know think stuff from our

1256
00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:22,680
childhood is being brought back it's a

1257
00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:24,540
lot of nostalgia being being remade

1258
00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:27,780
Nostalgia yeah and and you know I know a

1259
00:51:32,030 --> 00:51:29,640
lot of complaints people have made is

1260
00:51:34,609 --> 00:51:32,040
that the people in charge of these

1261
00:51:36,349 --> 00:51:34,619
reboots have not necessarily done their

1262
00:51:37,609 --> 00:51:36,359
homework they haven't read the comic

1263
00:51:40,010 --> 00:51:37,619
books or they haven't read the original

1264
00:51:42,589 --> 00:51:40,020
projects or whatever I will say that

1265
00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:42,599
this team clearly knows Halloween they

1266
00:51:45,470 --> 00:51:44,220
clearly have an affection for it and

1267
00:51:47,569 --> 00:51:45,480
they clearly know what they're doing

1268
00:51:49,609 --> 00:51:47,579
like when it comes to the references and

1269
00:51:51,770 --> 00:51:49,619
the Easter eggs and you know kills

1270
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:51,780
mirroring original kills like they know

1271
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:54,480
and I have a ton of respect for that but

1272
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:56,220
references in Easter eggs does not a

1273
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,140
film right good make is that what is

1274
00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:00,720
that but it's not a good not good a film

1275
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:03,240
not a filmmaker good yes okay yeah yeah

1276
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:06,960
but I do I do want to like yeah but I do

1277
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:09,420
want to like they you know I do want to

1278
00:52:13,849 --> 00:52:12,000
give them points for clearly knowing

1279
00:52:17,450 --> 00:52:13,859
what what they're talking about and

1280
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:17,460
knowing what people you know missed and

1281
00:52:20,569 --> 00:52:18,660
loved about the originals I just think

1282
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,579
it wasn't their fans you could tell

1283
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,319
their fans but but it was completely

1284
00:52:28,849 --> 00:52:24,480
unfocused but but back to the Halloween

1285
00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:28,859
ends like again that opening I was like

1286
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:30,599
this is the best opening out of all

1287
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:32,880
three for sure out of all three you're

1288
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,920
gonna kill a kid at the beginning I mean

1289
00:52:39,770 --> 00:52:37,200
yeah wow that interests you right away

1290
00:52:42,890 --> 00:52:39,780
like nothing is off limits like you kill

1291
00:52:45,410 --> 00:52:42,900
a kid or a puppy like you're in for some

1292
00:52:47,630 --> 00:52:45,420
decision and like or a teddy bear or a

1293
00:52:50,690 --> 00:52:47,640
teddy bear but and there was like no

1294
00:52:52,849 --> 00:52:50,700
question that kid is dead like they went

1295
00:52:55,809 --> 00:52:52,859
for it and I love that he was like this

1296
00:52:58,730 --> 00:52:55,819
garbage kid who was like awful and like

1297
00:53:01,549 --> 00:52:58,740
yeah and yeah and you were like you were

1298
00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:01,559
so like so so the there's a couple of

1299
00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:07,609
I could tell who the parents are in this

1300
00:53:14,290 --> 00:53:09,780
conversation and who I know you know the

1301
00:53:20,270 --> 00:53:17,390
save the cat kill the piano okay but

1302
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:20,280
yeah but but the the thing about uh the

1303
00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:23,040
thing about horror films is you know uh

1304
00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:26,280
my rule is this protagonists care about

1305
00:53:30,170 --> 00:53:28,680
there's got to be one person you want to

1306
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,180
die in the film like there's got to be

1307
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,920
one person that you want you cheer when

1308
00:53:35,089 --> 00:53:33,839
they get killed by the by the person but

1309
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:35,099
then you have to cheer for the person

1310
00:53:38,089 --> 00:53:36,420
that is the protagonist that will

1311
00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:38,099
eventually survive or or beat this

1312
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:40,260
person and so like that kid immediately

1313
00:53:44,030 --> 00:53:41,760
was you were like I don't give a [\h__\h]

1314
00:53:45,710 --> 00:53:44,040
like you're sort of cheering and going

1315
00:53:47,690 --> 00:53:45,720
oh [\h__\h] at the same time because he was

1316
00:53:50,210 --> 00:53:47,700
such a piece of [\h__\h] kid like he was so

1317
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,220
mean to Corey and like was was and and

1318
00:53:55,309 --> 00:53:53,040
Corey I actually felt for him totally I

1319
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:55,319
was like oh I like this kid yeah you

1320
00:53:58,970 --> 00:53:56,880
know like I was like I like him he's

1321
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,980
such a different kid from Halloween

1322
00:54:02,329 --> 00:54:00,480
kills too which I think is really

1323
00:54:04,190 --> 00:54:02,339
interesting element kills you love that

1324
00:54:07,370 --> 00:54:04,200
kid's like you're like this kid is

1325
00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:07,380
awesome and this kid's like the polar

1326
00:54:11,870 --> 00:54:09,720
opposite like their use of their use of

1327
00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:11,880
a kid in that sense with the babies that

1328
00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:13,859
are tied I think was really interesting

1329
00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:16,020
um because that kind of relate and I'm

1330
00:54:20,329 --> 00:54:18,420
like this kid in this film well it was

1331
00:54:22,609 --> 00:54:20,339
smart it was a it was a really smart

1332
00:54:25,549 --> 00:54:22,619
choice to make this kid be a a jerk

1333
00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:25,559
because again it puts Corey in this sort

1334
00:54:29,569 --> 00:54:27,540
of angelic light of all of us worrying

1335
00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:29,579
about him yeah and if it had been like a

1336
00:54:34,849 --> 00:54:32,460
really sweet exactly if it had been a

1337
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,859
sweet character a sweet little kid that

1338
00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:36,240
he killed it would be a tough thing but

1339
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:39,240
we all know that he as a person cannot

1340
00:54:42,490 --> 00:54:41,040
say the kid was an [\h__\h] because

1341
00:54:44,690 --> 00:54:42,500
that's not gonna stand up in court

1342
00:54:49,130 --> 00:54:44,700
exactly you know the town isn't going to

1343
00:54:50,650 --> 00:54:49,140
be like well then okay well I mean yeah

1344
00:54:54,109 --> 00:54:50,660
um you know something well

1345
00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:54,119
siren yeah no no I was just gonna say we

1346
00:55:00,370 --> 00:54:55,980
feel for his parents more than we do

1347
00:55:04,010 --> 00:55:02,150
sides of that

1348
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:04,020
yeah

1349
00:55:07,250 --> 00:55:05,760
one thing I think with this film that

1350
00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:07,260
like speaking of the beginning of it

1351
00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:10,200
that that really stuck me that I I think

1352
00:55:13,010 --> 00:55:11,880
hurt the film and again overall I did

1353
00:55:15,410 --> 00:55:13,020
like it

1354
00:55:16,609 --> 00:55:15,420
um and and intro like that I don't know

1355
00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:16,619
how it doesn't matter what you guys

1356
00:55:19,370 --> 00:55:18,180
think but to me if I have an intro like

1357
00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:19,380
that right that's how this movie's

1358
00:55:24,589 --> 00:55:21,180
starting I expect like a runaway train

1359
00:55:26,809 --> 00:55:24,599
like that it is going to [\h__\h] move

1360
00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:26,819
and this movie did not do that it was

1361
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:28,380
like we're gonna start Fast and Furious

1362
00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:32,819
and we're gonna slow way down like

1363
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:35,700
like the original in my opinion yeah it

1364
00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:37,140
didn't set me up for the way that I

1365
00:55:43,010 --> 00:55:40,140
thought it was going to like go and end

1366
00:55:45,650 --> 00:55:43,020
the trilogy yeah yeah yeah yeah again

1367
00:55:47,530 --> 00:55:45,660
this was a great starting point yeah but

1368
00:55:50,089 --> 00:55:47,540
they put it at the end

1369
00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:50,099
I told you guys that in a chat I was

1370
00:55:52,730 --> 00:55:51,180
like this movie would have been the

1371
00:55:55,549 --> 00:55:52,740
second movie for me and then the third

1372
00:55:57,410 --> 00:55:55,559
movie was a continuation of

1373
00:55:58,609 --> 00:55:57,420
like these events that would have

1374
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,619
totally worked because you get the

1375
00:56:02,210 --> 00:56:00,720
homage in 2018 which is like getting you

1376
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,220
back into this world and kind of like

1377
00:56:07,010 --> 00:56:05,040
how it cleansing it and like bringing

1378
00:56:08,569 --> 00:56:07,020
you in and then you introduce

1379
00:56:10,130 --> 00:56:08,579
for even if Cory came in the second

1380
00:56:11,690 --> 00:56:10,140
movie and then it's about okay it's not

1381
00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:11,700
about Michael Myers anymore like that's

1382
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:15,240
that that we are ending that story but

1383
00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:17,280
it's about his effect on the town and

1384
00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:18,660
these women and like this other

1385
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,300
character who is

1386
00:56:26,930 --> 00:56:23,760
who you feel for and then you watch his

1387
00:56:28,250 --> 00:56:26,940
slow Evolution into yeah what what

1388
00:56:30,109 --> 00:56:28,260
Michael Myers is now because then

1389
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:30,119
Michael Myers is

1390
00:56:35,210 --> 00:56:32,640
not the same person right like that

1391
00:56:36,650 --> 00:56:35,220
person is gone but but the evil that is

1392
00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:36,660
the town

1393
00:56:41,329 --> 00:56:39,000
continues on through him and then like

1394
00:56:43,069 --> 00:56:41,339
yes watch the de-evolution of that

1395
00:56:45,230 --> 00:56:43,079
character and you can both then like

1396
00:56:47,150 --> 00:56:45,240
that character and then hate that

1397
00:56:48,849 --> 00:56:47,160
character and hit that same [\h__\h]

1398
00:56:51,170 --> 00:56:48,859
ending you could still have yeah yeah

1399
00:56:54,049 --> 00:56:51,180
one with Jamie Lee Curtis and I would

1400
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:54,059
have been like [\h__\h] yeah great yeah but

1401
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,740
what would have been awesome what would

1402
00:56:59,630 --> 00:56:57,599
have been awesome is you build to this

1403
00:57:01,250 --> 00:56:59,640
right so the first Halloween movie you

1404
00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:01,260
could have had Michael Myers disappeared

1405
00:57:04,849 --> 00:57:03,300
in 1978 no one knows where he went but

1406
00:57:07,010 --> 00:57:04,859
every year there's like some weird

1407
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:07,020
disappearance on Halloween night and

1408
00:57:10,430 --> 00:57:08,640
then you can you there's such an

1409
00:57:13,490 --> 00:57:10,440
opportunity to build with like the POV

1410
00:57:14,990 --> 00:57:13,500
of someone walking home you know uh from

1411
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:15,000
a party or something and he kills them

1412
00:57:18,650 --> 00:57:17,040
violently uh and then the next Halloween

1413
00:57:20,809 --> 00:57:18,660
the same thing happens and then Jamie

1414
00:57:22,790 --> 00:57:20,819
Lee is like we go to Jamie Lee and she's

1415
00:57:24,290 --> 00:57:22,800
like it's him I know it's him or so you

1416
00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:24,300
know and then and then Corey could have

1417
00:57:28,670 --> 00:57:25,980
been a minor character in the first one

1418
00:57:31,010 --> 00:57:28,680
that grew and you're like whoa [\h__\h] oh

1419
00:57:32,450 --> 00:57:31,020
he's oh my God it's oh it's core oh my

1420
00:57:33,890 --> 00:57:32,460
God Corey is the freaking he's going to

1421
00:57:35,569 --> 00:57:33,900
be I'm like yeah he's gonna become the

1422
00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:35,579
main dude and then he gets wiped out at

1423
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:37,140
the end and then there's a then there's

1424
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:38,640
like this big fight and the third one

1425
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,079
that could have been through Lori Strode

1426
00:57:43,730 --> 00:57:42,240
and then Corey and her granddaughter it

1427
00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:43,740
could have been great yeah but they

1428
00:57:48,170 --> 00:57:46,140
[\h__\h] it up so but yeah but if you if

1429
00:57:49,849 --> 00:57:48,180
we want to go back to to Halloween ends

1430
00:57:51,650 --> 00:57:49,859
and how it progresses I thought it

1431
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,660
really you're right Nick it hits the

1432
00:57:57,309 --> 00:57:54,240
brakes too hard then suddenly we get

1433
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:57,319
this love story

1434
00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:59,040
I want to get back into the

1435
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:00,900
reintroduction of Lori Strode well

1436
00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:03,359
cringy how they cringy how it was like

1437
00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:05,579
I'm gonna write my Memoirs and that's

1438
00:58:09,290 --> 00:58:07,140
how we're gonna get our Exposition I was

1439
00:58:11,089 --> 00:58:09,300
like Jesus I mean Brian as a writer were

1440
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,099
you just like God [\h__\h] damn it you

1441
00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:13,200
used to kill the laptop computer writing

1442
00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:15,000
thing and look if you're gonna have

1443
00:58:20,510 --> 00:58:17,640
tropes in a movie a horror movie is the

1444
00:58:23,870 --> 00:58:20,520
one to do it in but when you have such a

1445
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:23,880
strong strong female character like Lori

1446
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:27,359
Strode and an actress like Jamie Lee and

1447
00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:29,040
then you do this to her in the third

1448
00:58:34,670 --> 00:58:31,980
movie of like I'm writing a book I'm

1449
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:34,680
like are you can I tell you why are you

1450
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:37,200
writing a book can I tell you why didn't

1451
00:58:46,130 --> 00:58:42,799
care I have I love Exposition dumps and

1452
00:58:48,530 --> 00:58:46,140
the more obvious they are the better I

1453
00:58:50,329 --> 00:58:48,540
just get such I'm so tickled by them I

1454
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,339
love it when someone has to have a call

1455
00:58:54,829 --> 00:58:52,559
with Vincent D'Onofrio from a university

1456
00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:54,839
where he has to tell me the history of

1457
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,079
bagul I love it yep I love it when

1458
00:59:02,030 --> 00:59:00,240
someone has to be on a car ride with a

1459
00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:02,040
government official who has to fill them

1460
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,839
in on the history of the experiment and

1461
00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:06,000
he literally says fill me in fill me in

1462
00:59:12,670 --> 00:59:10,140
and I'm like I'm already I love I love

1463
00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:12,680
because how are you gonna I just love it

1464
00:59:17,569 --> 00:59:15,780
you know ever like tell me you know yeah

1465
00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:17,579
you know what's really you know what's

1466
00:59:20,329 --> 00:59:19,260
really interesting too is I was so

1467
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:20,339
shocked to hear this out of John

1468
00:59:25,609 --> 00:59:22,680
Carpenter's mouth so John Carpenter in

1469
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,619
the first film it's a lot of show and

1470
00:59:29,089 --> 00:59:27,359
don't tell you know it's a lot there's

1471
00:59:30,289 --> 00:59:29,099
there's barely any like expert because

1472
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:30,299
there was there didn't need to be an

1473
00:59:35,930 --> 00:59:32,160
exposition or whatever

1474
00:59:38,750 --> 00:59:35,940
um but he said uh he said you know the

1475
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,760
biggest notes are always show it then

1476
00:59:43,069 --> 00:59:40,799
say what you showed then show it again

1477
00:59:45,170 --> 00:59:43,079
he was like that's that's like rules in

1478
00:59:46,970 --> 00:59:45,180
movie in in studio movies like you gotta

1479
00:59:49,130 --> 00:59:46,980
keep showing and telling and showing and

1480
00:59:51,049 --> 00:59:49,140
telling and so like that's what I felt

1481
00:59:52,910 --> 00:59:51,059
happened in that they were like we gotta

1482
00:59:54,410 --> 00:59:52,920
fill everyone in because you know it's

1483
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:54,420
been like how many years and we got to

1484
00:59:59,210 --> 00:59:56,160
do it and I get it but I was just like

1485
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:59,220
oh cringe really oh I'm gonna you're

1486
01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:00,960
gonna have her sitting at a [\h__\h]

1487
01:00:06,430 --> 01:00:03,660
laptop talking about like this is my

1488
01:00:10,970 --> 01:00:06,440
house sorry Doogie Howser

1489
01:00:13,849 --> 01:00:10,980
so but I will say this I loved where

1490
01:00:16,370 --> 01:00:13,859
they brought her yes I loved Laurie

1491
01:00:20,089 --> 01:00:16,380
Strode in this movie okay okay she's

1492
01:00:22,849 --> 01:00:20,099
awesome okay apologize because I gotta

1493
01:00:25,130 --> 01:00:22,859
hear you justify this because okay four

1494
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,140
years have passed I know Halloween kills

1495
01:00:28,849 --> 01:00:27,359
oh it's honey um I know which people are

1496
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:28,859
like wait what the I thought this

1497
01:00:34,010 --> 01:00:30,720
Trilogy was supposed to all be like the

1498
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:34,020
same night and um and the writers have

1499
01:00:37,370 --> 01:00:35,520
gone on the record saying no that was

1500
01:00:39,650 --> 01:00:37,380
never the case I don't know if I believe

1501
01:00:41,630 --> 01:00:39,660
them on that I don't believe them I want

1502
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,640
to believe I don't believe any of this I

1503
01:00:46,609 --> 01:00:43,680
think they need to get a lot of course

1504
01:00:49,250 --> 01:00:46,619
correction but tell me why you like what

1505
01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:49,260
Lori Strode is because for me it made no

1506
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:51,480
sense her daughter was just murdered by

1507
01:00:54,650 --> 01:00:53,040
the man who tried to murder her right

1508
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:54,660
and then all of a sudden I know it's

1509
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,119
four years later but for us all of a

1510
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,520
sudden she's like everything's cool I'm

1511
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:01,200
writing a book I'm I'm putting some

1512
01:01:06,770 --> 01:01:04,200
spider webs up you know on my new home

1513
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:06,780
not cool Ryan yeah explain this to me

1514
01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:11,760
Dennis okay what what so I again I am

1515
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:13,260
treating this and this is very funny

1516
01:01:16,490 --> 01:01:14,880
because I said you know who's gonna love

1517
01:01:18,370 --> 01:01:16,500
this movie people will love Halloween

1518
01:01:21,049 --> 01:01:18,380
season this season

1519
01:01:22,670 --> 01:01:21,059
every H3 fan that I know is like I

1520
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:22,680
really loved Halloween ends because it

1521
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:24,900
diverted so much

1522
01:01:31,370 --> 01:01:28,079
treating this as its own film right so

1523
01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:31,380
here's how I see this imagine imagine we

1524
01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:33,780
had Halloween 1978 and then Halloween

1525
01:01:36,289 --> 01:01:35,460
ends was the first movie we got after

1526
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:36,299
that

1527
01:01:40,730 --> 01:01:39,359
the exposition of what happened in

1528
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:40,740
between we didn't have to sit through

1529
01:01:44,450 --> 01:01:42,480
the terrible the first two terrible

1530
01:01:45,890 --> 01:01:44,460
movies so I would I was literally

1531
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:45,900
watching it like that I was like this

1532
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,520
was the palette cleanser that I needed

1533
01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:49,440
yeah this really was the palate cleanser

1534
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,260
I needed why I liked her was because

1535
01:01:56,750 --> 01:01:54,720
they sort of brought her back to I am

1536
01:01:58,849 --> 01:01:56,760
trying to get back to a normal life I've

1537
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,859
done the Survivor thing I've I've gone

1538
01:02:03,289 --> 01:02:00,960
through this horrible [\h__\h] I just want

1539
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:03,299
to live like a [\h__\h] normal person you

1540
01:02:08,030 --> 01:02:05,760
know what I mean which I feel was good I

1541
01:02:11,390 --> 01:02:08,040
was like yes okay I can get behind this

1542
01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:11,400
plus I loved her again I didn't like her

1543
01:02:14,809 --> 01:02:13,440
in the first two movies I hated that I

1544
01:02:16,430 --> 01:02:14,819
didn't like Lori Strode in the first two

1545
01:02:18,770 --> 01:02:16,440
movies I was like I wanted to like the

1546
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,780
like Survivor Lori Strode with the guns

1547
01:02:23,089 --> 01:02:20,880
and but I was like she was too much and

1548
01:02:25,490 --> 01:02:23,099
I also think that once they realized

1549
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:25,500
that not to keep going back to Corey but

1550
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,079
I think once they landed on him they

1551
01:02:33,770 --> 01:02:30,960
needed to make her different because if

1552
01:02:35,809 --> 01:02:33,780
she was still gun nut traumatized Lori

1553
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:35,819
Strode she and Corey would be super

1554
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,160
similar once he becomes bad and they

1555
01:02:41,630 --> 01:02:40,079
needed her to have gone to hell and now

1556
01:02:44,210 --> 01:02:41,640
made it back out so that she can

1557
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:44,220
recognize the hell in him yes and can be

1558
01:02:49,069 --> 01:02:47,280
like oh I see that and I don't think

1559
01:02:51,410 --> 01:02:49,079
that we would have gotten if if she

1560
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,420
wasn't as soft as she they didn't soften

1561
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:53,280
her as much but she was still tough so

1562
01:02:56,690 --> 01:02:54,960
it's like so we still had that final

1563
01:02:57,710 --> 01:02:56,700
girl in her there was still that thing

1564
01:02:59,569 --> 01:02:57,720
where it's like you want to do it or

1565
01:03:01,609 --> 01:02:59,579
should I when they pop the tire yeah you

1566
01:03:03,470 --> 01:03:01,619
know I was like that was cool I was like

1567
01:03:06,109 --> 01:03:03,480
there's Lori Strode we're getting these

1568
01:03:08,089 --> 01:03:06,119
hints of her but so she's suppressing it

1569
01:03:10,370 --> 01:03:08,099
to live the normal life and get on with

1570
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:10,380
her life and you know the town obviously

1571
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:13,200
cannot move on from her and what she did

1572
01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:14,880
which was kind of silly I was like why

1573
01:03:18,049 --> 01:03:16,200
are you yelling that didn't work for me

1574
01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:18,059
yeah all that stuff didn't work but as

1575
01:03:23,210 --> 01:03:21,240
her her character I was like I like this

1576
01:03:25,609 --> 01:03:23,220
version of Lori Strode I got behind her

1577
01:03:27,230 --> 01:03:25,619
I felt sympathetic she was sweet there

1578
01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:27,240
was a sweetness to her especially when

1579
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:29,040
she's like I like your face like in the

1580
01:03:35,210 --> 01:03:33,599
in the shopping oh my god oh I I loved

1581
01:03:38,109 --> 01:03:35,220
it I like that they softened her a bit

1582
01:03:40,609 --> 01:03:38,119
more so that's my justification yeah

1583
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:40,619
feel free to feel free to you know punch

1584
01:03:45,770 --> 01:03:42,960
at me she had a lot of therapy that's

1585
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:45,780
got something to say yeah get Nick we

1586
01:03:49,490 --> 01:03:48,000
can see you chomping man no no I

1587
01:03:50,809 --> 01:03:49,500
actually agree I totally agree with you

1588
01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:50,819
Dennis but I think you still have to

1589
01:03:53,690 --> 01:03:52,260
have Lori's job in the first movie for

1590
01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:53,700
it to work so what I love about the

1591
01:03:57,530 --> 01:03:55,740
softer Lori Strode from a movie

1592
01:03:59,329 --> 01:03:57,540
perspective it gave her a really clear

1593
01:04:01,670 --> 01:03:59,339
Arc right like

1594
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:01,680
I you watch her like because you have

1595
01:04:06,289 --> 01:04:04,559
she's so damaged in the first film the

1596
01:04:09,530 --> 01:04:06,299
second film is she even in it I don't

1597
01:04:12,349 --> 01:04:09,540
know who knows what's happening she's in

1598
01:04:13,609 --> 01:04:12,359
a hospital bed yes the hospital great I

1599
01:04:14,990 --> 01:04:13,619
would have just just give me the

1600
01:04:16,430 --> 01:04:15,000
original Halloween too and we'll just

1601
01:04:19,510 --> 01:04:16,440
pretend that's the second one for this

1602
01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:19,520
series because that's a better movie

1603
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:21,900
but I like that you're like okay so we

1604
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:23,760
see again because I love the trauma

1605
01:04:28,730 --> 01:04:27,359
track for this movie like you see what

1606
01:04:31,730 --> 01:04:28,740
this trauma has done to her and her

1607
01:04:34,609 --> 01:04:31,740
family right and and she takes that path

1608
01:04:36,370 --> 01:04:34,619
and that path does not work right it

1609
01:04:38,569 --> 01:04:36,380
actually causes

1610
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:38,579
more negative results because of

1611
01:04:43,309 --> 01:04:41,160
Halloween kills because everyone dies

1612
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:43,319
um and now you see you're going well

1613
01:04:46,609 --> 01:04:44,640
like Bethany said you see you're going

1614
01:04:50,990 --> 01:04:46,619
like full circle into like I'm gonna I'm

1615
01:04:52,849 --> 01:04:51,000
gonna lean hard into the like

1616
01:04:55,309 --> 01:04:52,859
I'm gonna live a normal life I'm gonna

1617
01:04:58,010 --> 01:04:55,319
lean Mega heart just like I'm gonna go

1618
01:05:00,589 --> 01:04:58,020
180 from the from the first film

1619
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:00,599
and why I love that right because that's

1620
01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:02,160
the other way people deal with trauma

1621
01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:04,440
right is to be like everything is fine

1622
01:05:06,829 --> 01:05:05,760
that's what I'm talking about yeah

1623
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:06,839
that's exactly what I'm talking about

1624
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:08,880
but then it gives her and then it gives

1625
01:05:12,349 --> 01:05:11,280
her character which is so like but I

1626
01:05:14,690 --> 01:05:12,359
don't think it works unless you have

1627
01:05:17,030 --> 01:05:14,700
2018's Lori unless you have like gun

1628
01:05:18,349 --> 01:05:17,040
toting Sarah Connor lyrics you want to

1629
01:05:21,049 --> 01:05:18,359
see your lean in the other direction

1630
01:05:23,930 --> 01:05:21,059
because what it does for me is that I go

1631
01:05:26,569 --> 01:05:23,940
oh but I know who she is now actually

1632
01:05:28,010 --> 01:05:26,579
the Lorry stroke is like Okay and like

1633
01:05:30,289 --> 01:05:28,020
is not

1634
01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:30,299
to me that's a front it is like you know

1635
01:05:34,370 --> 01:05:32,400
when you try

1636
01:05:36,589 --> 01:05:34,380
um fake it till you make it like that's

1637
01:05:38,510 --> 01:05:36,599
my mind like this is Lori Strode faking

1638
01:05:41,030 --> 01:05:38,520
it until she makes it and she kind of is

1639
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:41,040
and then when she starts to flip again

1640
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:44,000
you go oh there she is

1641
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:46,799
yes all right that's a great point I

1642
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:48,720
like that it gave her someplace to go

1643
01:05:54,530 --> 01:05:50,880
but I need but I need as a person

1644
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:54,540
watching it I need that that initial

1645
01:05:59,930 --> 01:05:57,599
Lord's throat who has gone full on the

1646
01:06:02,990 --> 01:05:59,940
other direction to watch to be like well

1647
01:06:05,030 --> 01:06:03,000
is that person still there oh yeah oh

1648
01:06:08,329 --> 01:06:05,040
she's still oh and then when she's there

1649
01:06:10,670 --> 01:06:08,339
she's like really there so I that was

1650
01:06:12,470 --> 01:06:10,680
like the one thing that I think when you

1651
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:12,480
talk about these movies being connected

1652
01:06:17,089 --> 01:06:14,240
or good storytelling to these movies

1653
01:06:18,049 --> 01:06:17,099
Lori Strode and their character Arc for

1654
01:06:21,109 --> 01:06:18,059
her

1655
01:06:22,849 --> 01:06:21,119
I really liked I just

1656
01:06:24,410 --> 01:06:22,859
and maybe that's maybe that's why in

1657
01:06:25,970 --> 01:06:24,420
Halloween kills you don't get to see

1658
01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:25,980
them interact together at all like that

1659
01:06:29,630 --> 01:06:28,020
was a big complaint that obviously like

1660
01:06:31,309 --> 01:06:29,640
you don't you have Laurie strogan

1661
01:06:33,230 --> 01:06:31,319
Michael Myers and they never really like

1662
01:06:34,609 --> 01:06:33,240
well and that's why I think this thing

1663
01:06:36,829 --> 01:06:34,619
was so it's like they were on a zoom

1664
01:06:38,450 --> 01:06:36,839
call yeah this is why this thing was so

1665
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:38,460
unfocused because it's like we're

1666
01:06:41,630 --> 01:06:40,079
building up we're building up to the end

1667
01:06:43,309 --> 01:06:41,640
we're building up to the end and then

1668
01:06:45,950 --> 01:06:43,319
they just give you this fart of an

1669
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:45,960
ending you know it was like it was like

1670
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:48,000
a following kills she's barely in it I

1671
01:06:51,049 --> 01:06:49,440
know and then and then there's barely

1672
01:06:54,289 --> 01:06:51,059
any interaction in the third one people

1673
01:06:56,450 --> 01:06:54,299
were like what the [\h__\h] did you do I was

1674
01:06:58,910 --> 01:06:56,460
fine with Michael Myers not being in it

1675
01:07:01,069 --> 01:06:58,920
a ton I was but no I actually like that

1676
01:07:03,650 --> 01:07:01,079
he's yeah he was never in these years

1677
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:03,660
that much what's he gonna do continue to

1678
01:07:10,370 --> 01:07:07,680
slowly walk around but but like the

1679
01:07:12,589 --> 01:07:10,380
thing that I was like bummed about was

1680
01:07:14,809 --> 01:07:12,599
there he is

1681
01:07:16,490 --> 01:07:14,819
was when they finally see each other

1682
01:07:19,010 --> 01:07:16,500
they finally meet they finally have

1683
01:07:23,270 --> 01:07:19,020
their fight the fight was

1684
01:07:26,569 --> 01:07:23,280
so short and this is what the last 40

1685
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:26,579
years have been building up to is is the

1686
01:07:31,730 --> 01:07:30,000
two finally like who's gonna win and the

1687
01:07:33,410 --> 01:07:31,740
fight was really like

1688
01:07:34,849 --> 01:07:33,420
I pushed you down you got back up I

1689
01:07:36,349 --> 01:07:34,859
pushed him down I put a knife in his

1690
01:07:38,690 --> 01:07:36,359
hand and now he's stuck and now we just

1691
01:07:43,930 --> 01:07:38,700
watch him slowly bleed from the wrist

1692
01:07:49,010 --> 01:07:46,670
I would have liked it if it had been

1693
01:07:52,190 --> 01:07:49,020
more I want like a battle royale I want

1694
01:07:55,250 --> 01:07:52,200
like the whole house is on fire you

1695
01:07:58,430 --> 01:07:55,260
bring up such a good point no we have to

1696
01:08:02,210 --> 01:07:58,440
I think there's some hypocrisy in the

1697
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:02,220
writing here because in the first one

1698
01:08:07,849 --> 01:08:05,220
2018 we're kind of told he's just a

1699
01:08:10,190 --> 01:08:07,859
human yeah you know he's just a human uh

1700
01:08:12,109 --> 01:08:10,200
maybe he's strong but whatever he has

1701
01:08:14,210 --> 01:08:12,119
this will and this evil to just keep

1702
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:14,220
killing killing killing Halloween kills

1703
01:08:20,090 --> 01:08:16,560
then we're getting inkling so that maybe

1704
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,100
he's a little bit more he's superhuman

1705
01:08:24,890 --> 01:08:22,560
um and he cannot die they literally say

1706
01:08:26,450 --> 01:08:24,900
evil dies tonight no it doesn't no see

1707
01:08:29,090 --> 01:08:26,460
by the end of that movie Evil does not

1708
01:08:31,370 --> 01:08:29,100
die neither does Michael Myers some sort

1709
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:31,380
of superhuman ability yeah and then

1710
01:08:35,150 --> 01:08:33,480
immediately in this last movie they go

1711
01:08:36,130 --> 01:08:35,160
back to this idea that he's just an old

1712
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:36,140
man

1713
01:08:39,769 --> 01:08:39,120
so I'm like or evil he's not just an old

1714
01:08:43,370 --> 01:08:39,779
man

1715
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:43,380
it's unclear it is yeah no I and I like

1716
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:46,319
that ambiguity but I'm like I don't

1717
01:08:49,789 --> 01:08:48,000
think the writers really know what they

1718
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,799
want Michael Myers to be no because

1719
01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:51,359
there was four of them and then it was

1720
01:08:56,809 --> 01:08:53,580
Rewritten again and tests and I'm sure

1721
01:08:59,390 --> 01:08:56,819
that you know so much I just wanted a

1722
01:09:01,610 --> 01:08:59,400
final I I liked that they were both

1723
01:09:03,650 --> 01:09:01,620
clearly older I liked the Jamie Lee

1724
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:03,660
Curtis is older getting into a fight I

1725
01:09:07,070 --> 01:09:05,520
like that he is too and I would have

1726
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:07,080
loved to have seen like a moment where

1727
01:09:10,910 --> 01:09:08,640
they're both like catching their breath

1728
01:09:13,729 --> 01:09:10,920
and then like getting back into it but I

1729
01:09:15,470 --> 01:09:13,739
wanted like this final I wanted her to

1730
01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:15,480
be running upstairs I wanted her to be

1731
01:09:18,650 --> 01:09:17,460
jumping dust and I wanted the issue with

1732
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:18,660
that is they did that in the first movie

1733
01:09:22,370 --> 01:09:20,400
the house was on fire in the first movie

1734
01:09:24,849 --> 01:09:22,380
yes they did the Battle Royale in the

1735
01:09:28,430 --> 01:09:24,859
first first movie that's a great Point

1736
01:09:29,390 --> 01:09:28,440
yeah they blew it 2018. yeah they blew

1737
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:29,400
it because it was like well we gotta

1738
01:09:32,510 --> 01:09:30,960
keep the asses into the seats and like

1739
01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:32,520
you know give them what they want and

1740
01:09:35,209 --> 01:09:33,900
then they did and then the problem is

1741
01:09:36,829 --> 01:09:35,219
when you try to go back to that you

1742
01:09:38,090 --> 01:09:36,839
can't do that all over again no you're

1743
01:09:39,169 --> 01:09:38,100
right you're right you're right that's

1744
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,179
what I liked about it though because

1745
01:09:43,130 --> 01:09:41,520
there was I remember when I was doing

1746
01:09:44,809 --> 01:09:43,140
for fight cards you had this really good

1747
01:09:46,130 --> 01:09:44,819
fight stage fight car who made it really

1748
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:46,140
a point he's like sometimes the best

1749
01:09:51,709 --> 01:09:48,239
fights and it's counter-intuitive are

1750
01:09:53,390 --> 01:09:51,719
short yes you can build up to like a

1751
01:09:55,250 --> 01:09:53,400
huge thing which it doesn't you did

1752
01:09:57,770 --> 01:09:55,260
already and you had a huge thing in the

1753
01:09:59,810 --> 01:09:57,780
second movie I mean like a mob thing in

1754
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:59,820
the second movie and so this movie is

1755
01:10:02,209 --> 01:10:00,960
like

1756
01:10:03,770 --> 01:10:02,219
yeah

1757
01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:03,780
um so I liked this movie it was like

1758
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:05,280
this conversation because she has two

1759
01:10:08,270 --> 01:10:06,239
because she kind of has the one with

1760
01:10:10,669 --> 01:10:08,280
Corey too like I like this like this

1761
01:10:11,870 --> 01:10:10,679
conversation is happening and like it's

1762
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,880
building like you've been building

1763
01:10:15,530 --> 01:10:13,679
towards this moment for so long that

1764
01:10:17,870 --> 01:10:15,540
it's like as opposed to it being this

1765
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:17,880
long draw I think it's a burst it's a

1766
01:10:22,010 --> 01:10:20,400
person that is done and I did like how I

1767
01:10:24,890 --> 01:10:22,020
came because like it's sort of in the

1768
01:10:28,669 --> 01:10:24,900
bathroom nope he's just a man he's a man

1769
01:10:29,870 --> 01:10:28,679
and he can die like a man and like I for

1770
01:10:31,310 --> 01:10:29,880
me there was something about that I was

1771
01:10:34,430 --> 01:10:31,320
like I actually really liked the

1772
01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:34,440
Simplicity and the speed and the

1773
01:10:39,530 --> 01:10:37,260
freneticness of such a small room like

1774
01:10:40,910 --> 01:10:39,540
having that fight take place in such a

1775
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:40,920
contained

1776
01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:45,600
area I really I I really like it worked

1777
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,340
for me on a very natural level because

1778
01:10:52,250 --> 01:10:49,920
it felt well it felt this like that's

1779
01:10:54,770 --> 01:10:52,260
that felt real like it felt strangely

1780
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:54,780
real to me like you've got to make sure

1781
01:10:59,870 --> 01:10:57,360
he's dead now and that's yeah there was

1782
01:11:03,649 --> 01:10:59,880
something also um

1783
01:11:04,810 --> 01:11:03,659
almost sensual about it that I in

1784
01:11:06,430 --> 01:11:04,820
because

1785
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:06,440
okay

1786
01:11:11,689 --> 01:11:09,120
let's go there no I wasn't expecting

1787
01:11:14,330 --> 01:11:11,699
that all right Nick there's green on you

1788
01:11:17,689 --> 01:11:14,340
buddy hey

1789
01:11:19,070 --> 01:11:17,699
um tell us why this is Central please

1790
01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:19,080
um it there was something so there's

1791
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:20,280
always this like again when we talk

1792
01:11:23,390 --> 01:11:21,600
about Slash movies and you have this

1793
01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:23,400
idea of like

1794
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:25,199
you know there's horror and sex and

1795
01:11:28,010 --> 01:11:26,640
they're so intertwined and there's

1796
01:11:31,610 --> 01:11:28,020
something about their relationship right

1797
01:11:34,010 --> 01:11:31,620
like they're so intertwined almost like

1798
01:11:38,830 --> 01:11:34,020
almost in that way like a weird coupling

1799
01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:42,470
well it says Nick on centrality in the

1800
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,760
screen for anyone's just listening who

1801
01:11:49,790 --> 01:11:47,280
wrote that I don't know it's weird Nick

1802
01:11:51,530 --> 01:11:49,800
I'm sorry buddy I had to please no I get

1803
01:11:54,010 --> 01:11:51,540
where you're going please and so because

1804
01:11:57,530 --> 01:11:54,020
like even the death like the the

1805
01:11:58,729 --> 01:11:57,540
the intimacy of how she kills him right

1806
01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:58,739
because everything else in this movie

1807
01:12:02,689 --> 01:12:00,480
like every kill Halloween kills is all

1808
01:12:04,130 --> 01:12:02,699
just which which again I freaking planes

1809
01:12:07,250 --> 01:12:04,140
like it wasn't brutal enough or they

1810
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:07,260
seemed cheesy which for me that is what

1811
01:12:10,729 --> 01:12:08,640
horror movie killing is like it's all

1812
01:12:12,290 --> 01:12:10,739
[\h__\h] cheesy it's just like how how

1813
01:12:14,209 --> 01:12:12,300
cool can you make that cheesy look like

1814
01:12:16,729 --> 01:12:14,219
cutting someone's tongue off

1815
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:16,739
um so for this kill right because you're

1816
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:19,440
ending it it's so simple which is it's

1817
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:23,280
so slow and it's so deliber at how she

1818
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:25,920
kills him that I was just like that is

1819
01:12:30,530 --> 01:12:27,600
so such a

1820
01:12:32,450 --> 01:12:30,540
good choice maybe intimacy that's why I

1821
01:12:33,890 --> 01:12:32,460
say sensual because that's so intimate

1822
01:12:35,209 --> 01:12:33,900
like Yeah because it wasn't like he does

1823
01:12:37,550 --> 01:12:35,219
it fast and like she goes in she's like

1824
01:12:41,209 --> 01:12:37,560
boom boom dice yeah it's a good thing

1825
01:12:43,550 --> 01:12:41,219
I'm and like you feel that like

1826
01:12:44,930 --> 01:12:43,560
connection through that whereas like

1827
01:12:46,490 --> 01:12:44,940
usually definitely horror movies guys

1828
01:12:48,890 --> 01:12:46,500
it's all about like

1829
01:12:50,330 --> 01:12:48,900
to reference a movie Ryan and I worked

1830
01:12:53,149 --> 01:12:50,340
with someone like terrifier too or even

1831
01:12:55,070 --> 01:12:53,159
the first terrifier which is brutal of

1832
01:12:57,229 --> 01:12:55,080
people like yeah it's [\h__\h] brutal

1833
01:12:58,729 --> 01:12:57,239
like yeah I mean I did a horror movie

1834
01:13:00,830 --> 01:12:58,739
like that literally it's what's in the

1835
01:13:02,930 --> 01:13:00,840
opening of this but like I liked

1836
01:13:06,830 --> 01:13:02,940
something that was

1837
01:13:10,130 --> 01:13:06,840
Pare down in quiet and intimate and like

1838
01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:10,140
oh like this is like this is this is

1839
01:13:15,729 --> 01:13:12,900
each other's driving force yeah close it

1840
01:13:18,410 --> 01:13:15,739
out they're holding hands at one point

1841
01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:18,420
that's such a good point Nick yeah and

1842
01:13:24,050 --> 01:13:20,940
there's there's also there was also a a

1843
01:13:27,470 --> 01:13:24,060
very very like

1844
01:13:29,689 --> 01:13:27,480
possibly erotic moment between Corey and

1845
01:13:32,209 --> 01:13:29,699
Michael Myers when he's holding the body

1846
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:32,219
yeah when he's holding the the police

1847
01:13:37,850 --> 01:13:35,520
officer or the the douchebag and and

1848
01:13:39,649 --> 01:13:37,860
Michael's driving the knife into him it

1849
01:13:40,450 --> 01:13:39,659
was like an orgasm you know what I mean

1850
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:40,460
yeah

1851
01:13:52,910 --> 01:13:50,149
and so I like that it's they're doing it

1852
01:13:55,790 --> 01:13:52,920
like you said density slow like there's

1853
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,800
something connect like that idea of like

1854
01:13:59,090 --> 01:13:57,840
Sex and Death and emotion and where are

1855
01:14:00,350 --> 01:13:59,100
these things like all combined in

1856
01:14:01,610 --> 01:14:00,360
Pleasure and Pain I mean that's what

1857
01:14:03,410 --> 01:14:01,620
hellrais was all about right like

1858
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:03,420
pleasure of pain and like that line

1859
01:14:07,010 --> 01:14:04,800
between I just watched the new

1860
01:14:09,410 --> 01:14:07,020
Hellraiser um that line between the two

1861
01:14:10,970 --> 01:14:09,420
of them and I thought that those moments

1862
01:14:12,410 --> 01:14:10,980
were really well done those are the

1863
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:12,420
things that made me like this movie a

1864
01:14:20,450 --> 01:14:17,040
lot but I was like like uh it felt like

1865
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:20,460
a play the last kind of ooh I don't know

1866
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:22,320
and this coming from the playwright so

1867
01:14:27,169 --> 01:14:24,719
like well Ryan I'm curious to hear your

1868
01:14:29,930 --> 01:14:27,179
yeah you're taking this as a writer yeah

1869
01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:29,940
I you know as much as I made fun of Nick

1870
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:32,159
for saying sensuality like I think there

1871
01:14:37,250 --> 01:14:35,040
is an intimacy to those final moments

1872
01:14:40,850 --> 01:14:37,260
that I really appreciated other rather

1873
01:14:42,590 --> 01:14:40,860
than this big epic Freddy vs Jason whole

1874
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:42,600
movie sort of feel

1875
01:14:49,550 --> 01:14:46,560
um I did like I I I think it was tacked

1876
01:14:52,490 --> 01:14:49,560
on like I honestly think this was like

1877
01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:52,500
executive notes of get Michael Myers in

1878
01:14:56,090 --> 01:14:54,120
there and the story

1879
01:14:58,130 --> 01:14:56,100
um like the first hour and 40 minutes

1880
01:15:01,550 --> 01:14:58,140
you could do whatever the hell you want

1881
01:15:03,890 --> 01:15:01,560
um but I do really appreciate the

1882
01:15:07,490 --> 01:15:03,900
intimacy of the one room that the battle

1883
01:15:09,890 --> 01:15:07,500
isn't that big I love this idea that

1884
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:09,900
Bethany says of like these two older

1885
01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:11,520
people like I would have loved a moment

1886
01:15:14,930 --> 01:15:13,199
of them both trying to catch their

1887
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:14,940
breath and maybe even Lori being like

1888
01:15:19,570 --> 01:15:16,980
what's the matter what's the matter come

1889
01:15:25,810 --> 01:15:22,010
you you need your [\h__\h] you need your

1890
01:15:32,330 --> 01:15:29,090
I don't know he I I there might be some

1891
01:15:33,890 --> 01:15:32,340
Viagra upstairs yeah yeah no that's a

1892
01:15:35,810 --> 01:15:33,900
good point you got his knife up yeah

1893
01:15:38,689 --> 01:15:35,820
that's a good point though I hadn't I

1894
01:15:40,729 --> 01:15:38,699
hadn't thought about that level of the

1895
01:15:42,890 --> 01:15:40,739
the intimate intimacy aspect because you

1896
01:15:44,990 --> 01:15:42,900
and I when we watched it together with

1897
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:45,000
the moment where Corey is holding the

1898
01:15:48,770 --> 01:15:47,040
body and and yeah Michael Myers is

1899
01:15:50,990 --> 01:15:48,780
stabbing it it reminded me of something

1900
01:15:53,090 --> 01:15:51,000
from like handmaid's tale where like the

1901
01:15:55,490 --> 01:15:53,100
woman sits behind the woman who's giving

1902
01:15:57,310 --> 01:15:55,500
birth that's sort of like a it was a

1903
01:16:00,290 --> 01:15:57,320
really interesting

1904
01:16:02,990 --> 01:16:00,300
way well presenting it so the way it was

1905
01:16:03,890 --> 01:16:03,000
framed yeah he was holding like that was

1906
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:03,900
Michael

1907
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:06,480
gaining his power back yeah and it was a

1908
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,400
birth yeah it felt like yeah that's how

1909
01:16:12,770 --> 01:16:10,560
I saw that whole thing was it was it was

1910
01:16:15,530 --> 01:16:12,780
a it was giving birth to the evil again

1911
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:15,540
yeah through this person and and Corey

1912
01:16:20,270 --> 01:16:18,480
is the Avatar or the birth giver yeah

1913
01:16:22,250 --> 01:16:20,280
you know so he was the last one that was

1914
01:16:23,930 --> 01:16:22,260
you know so I like this I like Nick I

1915
01:16:25,010 --> 01:16:23,940
like I like talking about the then you

1916
01:16:27,410 --> 01:16:25,020
guys's take on the end is really

1917
01:16:30,590 --> 01:16:27,420
interesting yeah and we'll we'll Circle

1918
01:16:31,790 --> 01:16:30,600
back to that for sure because I I I do

1919
01:16:34,910 --> 01:16:31,800
enjoy the end

1920
01:16:36,890 --> 01:16:34,920
um let's Circle back to Corey okay so um

1921
01:16:38,689 --> 01:16:36,900
we we haven't really touched on what

1922
01:16:41,630 --> 01:16:38,699
happens after he accidentally kills this

1923
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:41,640
child he becomes kind of this Boogeyman

1924
01:16:47,570 --> 01:16:44,400
for Haddonfield uh they don't care if it

1925
01:16:50,209 --> 01:16:47,580
was an accident he killed a kid and the

1926
01:16:52,669 --> 01:16:50,219
town completely demonizes this poor

1927
01:16:56,030 --> 01:16:52,679
young man yeah his life is just yeah

1928
01:16:58,010 --> 01:16:56,040
ruined he has no friends he has a really

1929
01:17:00,130 --> 01:16:58,020
[\h__\h] up home life as we come to learn

1930
01:17:02,290 --> 01:17:00,140
yeah with his mom

1931
01:17:05,330 --> 01:17:02,300
yeah

1932
01:17:07,310 --> 01:17:05,340
parents don't don't make out with your

1933
01:17:09,050 --> 01:17:07,320
kids at one point she just like nearly

1934
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:09,060
tongue kisses him and it's really

1935
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:12,000
upsetting it was real gross why did they

1936
01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:15,360
have to go we didn't need it super Brave

1937
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:18,000
and like come down against parents

1938
01:17:21,169 --> 01:17:19,679
tongue kissing their children I'm gonna

1939
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:21,179
go ahead and make that statement I will

1940
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:24,239
say I will say horrible thing does a

1941
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:27,920
normal healthy thing to be like not good

1942
01:17:33,470 --> 01:17:30,960
I will say this and what I what I really

1943
01:17:36,530 --> 01:17:33,480
did appreciate about that was is that we

1944
01:17:39,530 --> 01:17:36,540
we do get a lot of films that focus on

1945
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:39,540
women being abused by a father whereas I

1946
01:17:45,290 --> 01:17:41,520
thought this was a very good take to see

1947
01:17:47,810 --> 01:17:45,300
that it happens to boys as well and

1948
01:17:49,970 --> 01:17:47,820
these things affect both sexes equally

1949
01:17:51,410 --> 01:17:49,980
you know sometimes and I thought it was

1950
01:17:53,149 --> 01:17:51,420
interesting to see that relationship I

1951
01:17:55,250 --> 01:17:53,159
was I was actually I was like well

1952
01:17:58,010 --> 01:17:55,260
that's refreshing to see like oh this

1953
01:17:59,570 --> 01:17:58,020
can happen to boys as well they could be

1954
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:59,580
they can have an abusive mother and

1955
01:18:03,229 --> 01:18:01,679
their father was more like just just let

1956
01:18:04,729 --> 01:18:03,239
her go like you know he was more like

1957
01:18:06,410 --> 01:18:04,739
the father was so I don't know if that

1958
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:06,420
was his like birth father I thought it

1959
01:18:10,270 --> 01:18:08,000
was a spectacular

1960
01:18:13,790 --> 01:18:10,280
dad or an

1961
01:18:16,189 --> 01:18:13,800
unclear oh my God I had my favorite line

1962
01:18:18,770 --> 01:18:16,199
but he just goes hey

1963
01:18:19,870 --> 01:18:18,780
I hope you find love oh God that was so

1964
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:19,880
nice

1965
01:18:24,410 --> 01:18:22,560
what the hell where did that go it was

1966
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,420
so sweet and so that's why I thought it

1967
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:26,880
was interesting to reverse those roles

1968
01:18:32,510 --> 01:18:28,560
whereas it's like we we actually see the

1969
01:18:35,390 --> 01:18:32,520
mother being the being the abuser which

1970
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:35,400
is not normal but it does happen it's

1971
01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:36,960
not normal in horror films but it does

1972
01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:38,040
happen and I thought that was an

1973
01:18:42,110 --> 01:18:40,260
interesting to see we sympathize with

1974
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,120
Corey a bit more then you know we're

1975
01:18:46,669 --> 01:18:44,880
like oh okay all right so it was so the

1976
01:18:49,310 --> 01:18:46,679
mother's overbearing and she's probably

1977
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:49,320
physically abused inappropriate and

1978
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:50,880
appropriate yeah at least as well

1979
01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:52,800
psychological so I thought that was a I

1980
01:18:57,229 --> 01:18:54,840
thought that was an interesting take you

1981
01:19:01,450 --> 01:18:57,239
know and how how male rage can build

1982
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:01,460
from that you know um and again

1983
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,560
using that that was good research done

1984
01:19:09,290 --> 01:19:06,719
on the part of how serial killers are

1985
01:19:10,850 --> 01:19:09,300
made usually it is at the hands of a

1986
01:19:13,130 --> 01:19:10,860
sexually abusive mother sorry I might be

1987
01:19:15,649 --> 01:19:13,140
getting a little too graphic here but

1988
01:19:17,330 --> 01:19:15,659
you know that is that happens with men

1989
01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:17,340
who become serial killers it's usually

1990
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:20,280
it does you find you find the pattern of

1991
01:19:23,990 --> 01:19:21,840
there there was probably a sexually

1992
01:19:26,270 --> 01:19:24,000
abusive person usually it's the mother

1993
01:19:29,149 --> 01:19:26,280
the rage is then you know put out

1994
01:19:31,729 --> 01:19:29,159
towards women okay so or an answer so so

1995
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:31,739
that does happen so I I did enjoy that

1996
01:19:36,350 --> 01:19:34,080
aspect of it I was like well that's okay

1997
01:19:38,810 --> 01:19:36,360
I get it I

1998
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:38,820
Dennis I agree with you I think it's

1999
01:19:46,189 --> 01:19:43,440
it's a it's a way uh to approach it I my

2000
01:19:50,090 --> 01:19:46,199
only thing is I didn't need that like

2001
01:19:53,149 --> 01:19:50,100
yeah I I didn't need Corey to have this

2002
01:19:55,490 --> 01:19:53,159
kind of paint by number explanation as

2003
01:19:58,430 --> 01:19:55,500
to why he becomes a killer because for

2004
01:20:00,350 --> 01:19:58,440
me that the thing with his mom like

2005
01:20:02,209 --> 01:20:00,360
isn't why he becomes a killer the reason

2006
01:20:04,610 --> 01:20:02,219
he becomes a killer is because the town

2007
01:20:07,130 --> 01:20:04,620
makes him a Monster yeah yep uh Michael

2008
01:20:10,550 --> 01:20:07,140
Myers feeds off of that and uses him as

2009
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:10,560
a monster and it's a tragic it's a

2010
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:12,960
tragic Devolution Evolution I don't even

2011
01:20:17,330 --> 01:20:14,880
know what you want to call it of Corey

2012
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:17,340
being such a good person and turning

2013
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:20,880
into this monster I didn't need the

2014
01:20:26,930 --> 01:20:24,239
whole mom thing yeah personally yes yeah

2015
01:20:28,990 --> 01:20:26,940
and those characters again there's so

2016
01:20:32,689 --> 01:20:29,000
many characters in these movies

2017
01:20:35,149 --> 01:20:32,699
that the those the parents

2018
01:20:37,130 --> 01:20:35,159
dad I guess did because Dad owned the

2019
01:20:39,649 --> 01:20:37,140
junkyard but like he could have just

2020
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:39,659
been a guy I didn't realize that was his

2021
01:20:42,770 --> 01:20:41,040
father

2022
01:20:45,229 --> 01:20:42,780
um until further along I have a hard

2023
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:45,239
time recognizing faces and so for me I

2024
01:20:49,850 --> 01:20:47,040
didn't recognize that the dad was also

2025
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:49,860
the junkyard owner until kind of we were

2026
01:20:55,970 --> 01:20:51,600
fully okay

2027
01:20:59,209 --> 01:20:55,980
um but the mom even when Lori Stewart

2028
01:21:02,470 --> 01:20:59,219
goes to visit Corey's mom to sort of get

2029
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,480
a feel for things that scene is sort of

2030
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:04,800
doesn't do much it doesn't really

2031
01:21:08,930 --> 01:21:06,480
further the plot that much it's just

2032
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:08,940
sort of like Lori Strode comes in mom is

2033
01:21:12,590 --> 01:21:11,040
sort of weird Lori Strode leaves right

2034
01:21:14,750 --> 01:21:12,600
it didn't it just felt like they had

2035
01:21:16,610 --> 01:21:14,760
like a a quota on characters they had to

2036
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:16,620
include and so like they put a mom in

2037
01:21:19,310 --> 01:21:18,000
there

2038
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:19,320
um I agree with you that it's an

2039
01:21:22,610 --> 01:21:20,400
interesting that we don't normally get

2040
01:21:24,770 --> 01:21:22,620
to see that it's just I don't I didn't

2041
01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:24,780
think we needed it yeah yeah I mean

2042
01:21:30,050 --> 01:21:27,840
again tacked on stuff definitely that is

2043
01:21:32,630 --> 01:21:30,060
like four writers in a room going what

2044
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:32,640
the [\h__\h] do we do four monkeys in a room

2045
01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:35,040
monotype writer I know it just felt like

2046
01:21:37,430 --> 01:21:36,360
they were throwing darts and they were

2047
01:21:40,610 --> 01:21:37,440
like all right that's a good idea let's

2048
01:21:43,010 --> 01:21:40,620
put that one in yeah yeah but again to

2049
01:21:45,050 --> 01:21:43,020
me at least I will say this is maybe a

2050
01:21:46,970 --> 01:21:45,060
hot controversial take this one felt the

2051
01:21:50,630 --> 01:21:46,980
most focused believe it or not out of

2052
01:21:53,530 --> 01:21:50,640
the out of the channel three yes I hated

2053
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:53,540
the first one I thought it was too much

2054
01:21:58,490 --> 01:21:56,400
I was I felt it was so unfocused and so

2055
01:22:01,310 --> 01:21:58,500
overblown it felt like it just felt like

2056
01:22:02,810 --> 01:22:01,320
such a huge okay here's what I liked

2057
01:22:04,189 --> 01:22:02,820
about this and why I felt this was

2058
01:22:06,050 --> 01:22:04,199
focused and it felt more like a

2059
01:22:08,990 --> 01:22:06,060
Halloween movie to me the cinematography

2060
01:22:11,209 --> 01:22:09,000
we talked about that it felt more it

2061
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,219
felt more like a Haddonfield Small Town

2062
01:22:16,669 --> 01:22:13,679
movie whereas the first one felt like

2063
01:22:18,590 --> 01:22:16,679
big budget here's a hot here's a set

2064
01:22:20,570 --> 01:22:18,600
piece here's a set piece here's a fire

2065
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,580
here's a parent here's the daughter

2066
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:22,320
here's another daughter here's a

2067
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:24,239
granddaughter here's this here's that

2068
01:22:29,090 --> 01:22:25,980
let's throw it all at the wall and then

2069
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:29,100
boom this one felt like this nice small

2070
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:31,440
contained chamber piece that I was like

2071
01:22:35,870 --> 01:22:33,120
oh [\h__\h] this feels more like the first

2072
01:22:38,570 --> 01:22:35,880
Halloween than the then Halloween 2018.

2073
01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:38,580
but I get it you're a big Studio budget

2074
01:22:42,050 --> 01:22:40,080
this is Halloween you gotta add the big

2075
01:22:43,610 --> 01:22:42,060
spectacle first you know it's hard to do

2076
01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:43,620
something small and contained like this

2077
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:44,820
so

2078
01:22:49,310 --> 01:22:46,800
anyway that's just my take on it you

2079
01:22:52,189 --> 01:22:49,320
know what I mean like that's my sort of

2080
01:22:54,290 --> 01:22:52,199
you know it felt nice it felt small you

2081
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,300
know well and again like you they were

2082
01:23:00,050 --> 01:22:56,880
never guaranteed that this Trilogy would

2083
01:23:01,790 --> 01:23:00,060
be would make it you know so like yeah

2084
01:23:03,950 --> 01:23:01,800
why not throw everything into the first

2085
01:23:04,990 --> 01:23:03,960
one of course and see what happens that

2086
01:23:09,229 --> 01:23:05,000
makes sense

2087
01:23:11,330 --> 01:23:09,239
yeah for sure yeah you're talking about

2088
01:23:13,310 --> 01:23:11,340
um that sorry my you know I'm having

2089
01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:13,320
stuff happening

2090
01:23:16,570 --> 01:23:14,880
happening

2091
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:16,580
um sensual stuff

2092
01:23:20,830 --> 01:23:18,840
oh God you want to get that Nick on

2093
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:20,840
sensuality back on the screen

2094
01:23:30,010 --> 01:23:26,030
and now for those of you just listening

2095
01:23:33,250 --> 01:23:32,330
face radio

2096
01:23:35,810 --> 01:23:33,260
um

2097
01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:35,820
I thought the Quarry thing with the mom

2098
01:23:38,930 --> 01:23:37,560
which I liked and maybe I'm reading way

2099
01:23:41,810 --> 01:23:38,940
too much into this is it felt like a

2100
01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:41,820
kind of a psycho homage too absolutely

2101
01:23:46,130 --> 01:23:44,880
bring it back to like 100 first flash a

2102
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:46,140
movie with like

2103
01:23:50,990 --> 01:23:48,719
you know baits and small and that's what

2104
01:23:54,530 --> 01:23:51,000
that felt to me I was like oh that's a

2105
01:23:55,850 --> 01:23:54,540
nice like it's like a deep cut like I

2106
01:23:58,490 --> 01:23:55,860
like that I like oh that's interesting

2107
01:24:01,490 --> 01:23:58,500
go back to like what in all intense

2108
01:24:03,530 --> 01:24:01,500
purposes is like a nice person who seems

2109
01:24:06,169 --> 01:24:03,540
to be nice and very innocent and like

2110
01:24:09,709 --> 01:24:06,179
this movement towards

2111
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:09,719
you know evil or becoming this like evil

2112
01:24:13,370 --> 01:24:11,760
thing but like what what are the

2113
01:24:14,930 --> 01:24:13,380
extended circumstances that lead you

2114
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:14,940
into that so it's not just the trauma he

2115
01:24:17,689 --> 01:24:16,560
experiences back to the steam of trauma

2116
01:24:19,970 --> 01:24:17,699
but like it's also the trauma he

2117
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:19,980
experiences at home with this mother and

2118
01:24:23,330 --> 01:24:21,360
so even when you have kindness around

2119
01:24:25,790 --> 01:24:23,340
him it can't like

2120
01:24:27,169 --> 01:24:25,800
the idea of being different Right comes

2121
01:24:28,430 --> 01:24:27,179
into play and like what makes someone

2122
01:24:29,330 --> 01:24:28,440
different I thought that was a nice

2123
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:29,340
little like

2124
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,719
touch you know that's why I thought for

2125
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:32,159
me it was nice foreshadowing as to what

2126
01:24:37,130 --> 01:24:34,560
was about to come with him too I was

2127
01:24:38,930 --> 01:24:37,140
like oh he's definitely going to be

2128
01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:38,940
come something he's not which again

2129
01:24:42,350 --> 01:24:41,040
that's Norman Bates right becomes the

2130
01:24:44,090 --> 01:24:42,360
mother is the killer just like with

2131
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:44,100
Corey like

2132
01:24:47,530 --> 01:24:45,920
he becomes Michael Meyer like he

2133
01:24:50,450 --> 01:24:47,540
literally

2134
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:50,460
becomes the figure what they call the

2135
01:24:53,930 --> 01:24:52,800
figure so let's go shape yeah he

2136
01:24:56,510 --> 01:24:53,940
literally becomes the shape and again

2137
01:24:57,890 --> 01:24:56,520
the idea of the shape is not necessarily

2138
01:25:01,010 --> 01:24:57,900
Michael Myers it's something bigger

2139
01:25:03,790 --> 01:25:01,020
right it's tanfield but and I will I

2140
01:25:08,270 --> 01:25:03,800
will say this I I I

2141
01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:08,280
was relieved that they did not actually

2142
01:25:14,450 --> 01:25:12,719
make Corey the next bad guy I was I have

2143
01:25:16,250 --> 01:25:14,460
a really hard time

2144
01:25:17,570 --> 01:25:16,260
um when I watch movies I tend to sort of

2145
01:25:19,010 --> 01:25:17,580
just like shut my brain off and I try

2146
01:25:20,630 --> 01:25:19,020
not to predict what's going to happen I

2147
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:20,640
try not to see too much in the future I

2148
01:25:24,350 --> 01:25:22,800
just try to stay in the moment but for

2149
01:25:26,930 --> 01:25:24,360
me I was like uh oh they're building up

2150
01:25:29,090 --> 01:25:26,940
to have Corey be the next shape for like

2151
01:25:30,110 --> 01:25:29,100
following movies oh this is this is

2152
01:25:32,570 --> 01:25:30,120
gonna how they're going to kill Michael

2153
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:32,580
Myers and keep it going anyway and

2154
01:25:35,810 --> 01:25:33,600
especially there was one moment where

2155
01:25:38,209 --> 01:25:35,820
Corey was like on the ground and then he

2156
01:25:41,450 --> 01:25:38,219
just sat up the exact same way Michael

2157
01:25:44,510 --> 01:25:41,460
Myers does and I was like oh no oh no

2158
01:25:46,669 --> 01:25:44,520
and then they didn't and I was really

2159
01:25:48,649 --> 01:25:46,679
relieved that they killed him yes and

2160
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:48,659
yes that that felt like it would have

2161
01:25:54,050 --> 01:25:51,840
been a really easy way out and yet they

2162
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,060
didn't take it and I will give them

2163
01:25:58,129 --> 01:25:56,400
props for that I liked that Corey was a

2164
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:58,139
bad guy but he didn't become the next

2165
01:26:03,410 --> 01:25:59,760
bad guy although it is literally

2166
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:03,420
Halloween ends yes and I and well I was

2167
01:26:09,530 --> 01:26:05,040
waiting for them to finagle their way

2168
01:26:11,450 --> 01:26:09,540
out of that exactly and I I appreciate I

2169
01:26:13,970 --> 01:26:11,460
appreciated that too that they they

2170
01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:13,980
didn't go that route I that's what I I

2171
01:26:18,490 --> 01:26:16,620
respect about this Fidelity is like they

2172
01:26:21,649 --> 01:26:18,500
there's like

2173
01:26:24,890 --> 01:26:21,659
there's no really debating like yeah

2174
01:26:26,990 --> 01:26:24,900
this is it this is it put it to bed yeah

2175
01:26:30,830 --> 01:26:27,000
story put the Laurie Strode Michael

2176
01:26:33,290 --> 01:26:30,840
Myers thing to bed yeah and I did really

2177
01:26:35,149 --> 01:26:33,300
respect that because many movies would

2178
01:26:37,610 --> 01:26:35,159
not they would leave some sort of

2179
01:26:39,950 --> 01:26:37,620
opening in there look anything's

2180
01:26:42,290 --> 01:26:39,960
possible in two years they could bring

2181
01:26:43,970 --> 01:26:42,300
Michael Myers book again I'm actually

2182
01:26:46,010 --> 01:26:43,980
okay if they bring Michael Myers back

2183
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:46,020
but then dude then like but make it

2184
01:26:50,110 --> 01:26:47,760
clean like at this point like do

2185
01:26:52,370 --> 01:26:50,120
something that is clean and like

2186
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:52,380
different because like you've tried

2187
01:26:57,050 --> 01:26:53,760
you've done the Laurie's throat thing

2188
01:26:58,850 --> 01:26:57,060
three times now yeah

2189
01:27:01,729 --> 01:26:58,860
isn't even the one that's not where his

2190
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:01,739
throat is still Lori Strode adjacent and

2191
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:04,560
I get it okay because James is the best

2192
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:06,719
final girl that there is I mean yeah

2193
01:27:13,790 --> 01:27:10,560
like like her it's hard to top her but I

2194
01:27:16,129 --> 01:27:13,800
I will say that I hope I hope that Rowan

2195
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:16,139
Campbell who played Corey has a long

2196
01:27:21,050 --> 01:27:18,719
career because he is a great actor he's

2197
01:27:22,850 --> 01:27:21,060
fantastic he has this Michael Rooker

2198
01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:22,860
from Henry portrait of a serial killer

2199
01:27:25,129 --> 01:27:23,820
look there were points where I was like

2200
01:27:27,290 --> 01:27:25,139
Bethany he looks exactly like Michael

2201
01:27:28,610 --> 01:27:27,300
Rooker yeah from Henry portrait of a

2202
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:28,620
serial kill I was like maybe that was

2203
01:27:34,490 --> 01:27:31,440
why they they they cast him too he had

2204
01:27:36,649 --> 01:27:34,500
that he has that look he had that hood

2205
01:27:39,649 --> 01:27:36,659
right I hope I just hope this doesn't no

2206
01:27:41,930 --> 01:27:39,659
it's okay I I hope this doesn't hurt his

2207
01:27:45,290 --> 01:27:41,940
career because I I would love to work

2208
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:45,300
with him he seems like a a really it he

2209
01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:46,800
really cares you could tell he really

2210
01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:48,540
cared about this character that's um

2211
01:27:52,129 --> 01:27:50,820
let's touch on that yeah with this

2212
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:52,139
character I think it was either John

2213
01:27:57,709 --> 01:27:54,719
Carpenter or the director

2214
01:28:01,070 --> 01:27:57,719
um who told Rowan off the bat he said

2215
01:28:04,669 --> 01:28:01,080
you are going to be universally hated

2216
01:28:06,410 --> 01:28:04,679
after this movie like this was like the

2217
01:28:09,229 --> 01:28:06,420
day he got cast and before they started

2218
01:28:11,209 --> 01:28:09,239
filming yep um before he'd even read the

2219
01:28:14,930 --> 01:28:11,219
script they're like you are going to be

2220
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:14,940
very hated by um a portion of the fans

2221
01:28:18,590 --> 01:28:17,040
of this franchise just so fulfilling

2222
01:28:20,270 --> 01:28:18,600
that to being like you know what like

2223
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:20,280
this is what we're doing like just strap

2224
01:28:28,729 --> 01:28:26,030
strapped in yeah he gave a hell of a

2225
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:28,739
performance yeah he's fantastic I

2226
01:28:34,669 --> 01:28:31,679
thought he was he was fantastic again um

2227
01:28:36,770 --> 01:28:34,679
Gordon green can get great performances

2228
01:28:39,950 --> 01:28:36,780
from his actors I don't know his style

2229
01:28:42,350 --> 01:28:39,960
but you know but he's no he did it with

2230
01:28:44,810 --> 01:28:42,360
this one so such a good performance and

2231
01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:44,820
I think that he actually for me was the

2232
01:28:51,110 --> 01:28:47,100
north star of this whole thing was the

2233
01:28:54,410 --> 01:28:51,120
Saving Grace I will say though but uh uh

2234
01:28:56,330 --> 01:28:54,420
Jamie Lee too yo my favorite performance

2235
01:28:58,689 --> 01:28:56,340
out of the whole thing the whole trilogy

2236
01:29:01,129 --> 01:28:58,699
this was my favorite version of her

2237
01:29:02,689 --> 01:29:01,139
has good performances like the actors

2238
01:29:04,970 --> 01:29:02,699
yes actors act the [\h__\h] out of that

2239
01:29:07,250 --> 01:29:04,980
movie yeah for sure

2240
01:29:09,649 --> 01:29:07,260
what about uh while we're on

2241
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:09,659
performances and characters

2242
01:29:16,270 --> 01:29:13,679
um Allison we I I for me they kind of

2243
01:29:19,550 --> 01:29:16,280
just gave up on her character yeah

2244
01:29:22,370 --> 01:29:19,560
she was just kind of like a a means to

2245
01:29:25,850 --> 01:29:22,380
an end to get Corey to where he needed

2246
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:25,860
to be and uh I I it sucks because I

2247
01:29:29,390 --> 01:29:27,120
really think they could have done a lot

2248
01:29:32,030 --> 01:29:29,400
with her as like kind of the next Laurie

2249
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,040
Strode and they just they made her as

2250
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:34,320
cardboard cut out as he could in this

2251
01:29:39,229 --> 01:29:36,719
third one and I get it they were

2252
01:29:42,169 --> 01:29:39,239
focusing on Corey they were focusing on

2253
01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,179
wrapping up the story of Lori Strode and

2254
01:29:48,350 --> 01:29:44,639
you can tell like those two are the meat

2255
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:48,360
of this entire but but no because your

2256
01:29:51,530 --> 01:29:49,679
energy again you make you take this

2257
01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:51,540
Pinnacle character from this it's it's

2258
01:30:00,729 --> 01:29:53,520
uh what's the character John bodega's

2259
01:30:04,910 --> 01:30:03,050
supposed to be a pinnacle character a

2260
01:30:07,310 --> 01:30:04,920
pinnacle character and in the first two

2261
01:30:10,430 --> 01:30:07,320
movies is then you're just like

2262
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:10,440
oh he's comic relief part of me wonders

2263
01:30:15,169 --> 01:30:12,960
if if it's like Allison's character

2264
01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:15,179
didn't test well you know like because

2265
01:30:20,590 --> 01:30:16,560
it really did feel like they were

2266
01:30:24,890 --> 01:30:22,970
right but right but I wonder if like

2267
01:30:27,229 --> 01:30:24,900
after after

2268
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:27,239
um Halloween kills just audiences

2269
01:30:30,530 --> 01:30:29,040
weren't liking her or she wasn't moving

2270
01:30:33,169 --> 01:30:30,540
the needle in some way and so they

2271
01:30:36,830 --> 01:30:33,179
decided to try something else it screams

2272
01:30:38,870 --> 01:30:36,840
to me of reshoots and committees and you

2273
01:30:41,590 --> 01:30:38,880
know it just because it's so

2274
01:30:46,010 --> 01:30:41,600
inconsistent and because this franchise

2275
01:30:49,129 --> 01:30:46,020
coming back in 2018 and is was such a

2276
01:30:51,169 --> 01:30:49,139
huge deal that there's no way they were

2277
01:30:54,350 --> 01:30:51,179
going to

2278
01:30:56,450 --> 01:30:54,360
um not test the hell out of it and get

2279
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,460
as many fingers in it as possible and so

2280
01:30:59,629 --> 01:30:58,320
I really have a feeling that her

2281
01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:59,639
character was supposed to be more than

2282
01:31:04,669 --> 01:31:01,199
she ended up being and it's a shame

2283
01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:04,679
because Andy matacek is wonderful she's

2284
01:31:08,330 --> 01:31:06,719
great great I think that if you did

2285
01:31:10,030 --> 01:31:08,340
great you give her good material she

2286
01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:10,040
will [\h__\h] crush it

2287
01:31:16,430 --> 01:31:13,199
and I think that they just she got done

2288
01:31:19,850 --> 01:31:16,440
dirty in this movie like uh

2289
01:31:21,590 --> 01:31:19,860
the weird romance how fast it happened I

2290
01:31:22,970 --> 01:31:21,600
mean that was my biggest thing I was

2291
01:31:24,350 --> 01:31:22,980
like what the hell like she just

2292
01:31:27,590 --> 01:31:24,360
suddenly falls in love with this guy

2293
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:27,600
walks in and like why like was there

2294
01:31:31,250 --> 01:31:29,280
something that I missed does he have

2295
01:31:33,350 --> 01:31:31,260
Supernatural powers to like make a woman

2296
01:31:38,410 --> 01:31:33,360
just fall in love with him Dennis he's

2297
01:31:40,850 --> 01:31:38,420
just a cutie yeah he's a wounded guys

2298
01:31:43,370 --> 01:31:40,860
oh even the way even the way they cut

2299
01:31:45,830 --> 01:31:43,380
that seam together I know I was like

2300
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:45,840
what is this I was like what kind of CW

2301
01:31:50,930 --> 01:31:48,960
garbage is this like what happened there

2302
01:31:53,090 --> 01:31:50,940
felt like there were some key moments

2303
01:31:55,610 --> 01:31:53,100
that were edited out to the point where

2304
01:31:57,169 --> 01:31:55,620
there was one scene after he dances and

2305
01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:57,179
then falls on the dance floor at that

2306
01:32:01,129 --> 01:31:58,800
party and then he runs out because he

2307
01:32:03,709 --> 01:32:01,139
sees oh that's so uneven there's this

2308
01:32:05,510 --> 01:32:03,719
scene yeah outside where she they're

2309
01:32:07,550 --> 01:32:05,520
looking at each other and talking and

2310
01:32:09,229 --> 01:32:07,560
all of a sudden her hands are out in

2311
01:32:11,570 --> 01:32:09,239
like in a way that looks really

2312
01:32:13,490 --> 01:32:11,580
meaningful and he like walks away from

2313
01:32:15,290 --> 01:32:13,500
her hands and it felt like there was

2314
01:32:17,390 --> 01:32:15,300
something she had said about like take

2315
01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:17,400
my hands and they edit did it out yeah

2316
01:32:20,510 --> 01:32:19,199
there were several moments in the movie

2317
01:32:22,550 --> 01:32:20,520
where I felt like I had missed something

2318
01:32:25,970 --> 01:32:22,560
really important that got chopped yeah

2319
01:32:29,330 --> 01:32:25,980
and her escalation of like hating Lori

2320
01:32:31,129 --> 01:32:29,340
it it was really weird I can I get that

2321
01:32:33,950 --> 01:32:31,139
like maybe she was being possessed by

2322
01:32:36,110 --> 01:32:33,960
evil you know but I feel like wasted

2323
01:32:37,970 --> 01:32:36,120
opportunity to work with an amazing

2324
01:32:40,250 --> 01:32:37,980
actress you know

2325
01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:40,260
um but yeah that was that was that whole

2326
01:32:45,610 --> 01:32:42,719
love story was so

2327
01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:45,620
weird Man

2328
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:47,760
Gordon I'm sorry Ryan I just want to say

2329
01:32:52,129 --> 01:32:49,920
no no no one quick thing Gordon Greene

2330
01:32:55,189 --> 01:32:52,139
did say he wanted to make his 50s

2331
01:32:56,450 --> 01:32:55,199
motorcycle Falling in Love movie oh my

2332
01:32:57,470 --> 01:32:56,460
favorite style of the movie it's my

2333
01:32:58,610 --> 01:32:57,480
favorite shot of the movie the movie

2334
01:33:01,189 --> 01:32:58,620
with them in the morning when Michael

2335
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:01,199
Myers is holding him on the owners yeah

2336
01:33:05,149 --> 01:33:03,360
I don't know why that moment I was like

2337
01:33:08,570 --> 01:33:05,159
that because you talk about the grainy

2338
01:33:12,110 --> 01:33:08,580
texture and like I unrelated I just love

2339
01:33:14,629 --> 01:33:12,120
that shot I was like that's cool he he

2340
01:33:16,970 --> 01:33:14,639
wanted to make yep he wanted to make an

2341
01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:16,980
American love story that felt like the

2342
01:33:22,370 --> 01:33:19,920
50s it and and look

2343
01:33:24,050 --> 01:33:22,380
that's your vision man as a director I'm

2344
01:33:25,490 --> 01:33:24,060
like I get it when you get obsessed with

2345
01:33:27,350 --> 01:33:25,500
the vision like you have to see it

2346
01:33:30,709 --> 01:33:27,360
through

2347
01:33:32,689 --> 01:33:30,719
um but again it just it it sort of fell

2348
01:33:35,450 --> 01:33:32,699
flat you know it just sort of felt like

2349
01:33:37,729 --> 01:33:35,460
I felt like he tried many things he

2350
01:33:39,970 --> 01:33:37,739
tried alive yeah

2351
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:43,370
yeah but again like if you can't take

2352
01:33:47,570 --> 01:33:45,600
those risks like what the hell's the

2353
01:33:51,530 --> 01:33:47,580
point yeah I think this was a good

2354
01:33:54,410 --> 01:33:51,540
example of this guy tried everything he

2355
01:33:56,270 --> 01:33:54,420
could to get his version and vision out

2356
01:33:58,310 --> 01:33:56,280
there but at the end of the day it's

2357
01:34:00,350 --> 01:33:58,320
going to come down to Executive

2358
01:34:03,050 --> 01:34:00,360
decisions it's going to come down to

2359
01:34:06,590 --> 01:34:03,060
test screenings and ultimately what's

2360
01:34:08,990 --> 01:34:06,600
going to appeal to the broader audience

2361
01:34:09,950 --> 01:34:09,000
and I do have I do want to bring up

2362
01:34:14,570 --> 01:34:09,960
later

2363
01:34:16,490 --> 01:34:14,580
30 minutes guys I promise we won't go

2364
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:16,500
that much longer we'll fast it's

2365
01:34:26,930 --> 01:34:24,890
um but what I was gonna say is uh

2366
01:34:30,530 --> 01:34:26,940
I don't know what I was gonna say I I

2367
01:34:34,729 --> 01:34:30,540
just lost Mike well I I will say this

2368
01:34:37,550 --> 01:34:34,739
sensual hold on I will I will

2369
01:34:40,250 --> 01:34:37,560
I had Ryan sorry oh no no uh that he

2370
01:34:43,129 --> 01:34:40,260
really tried he tried oh yeah he did I

2371
01:34:44,930 --> 01:34:43,139
respect any filmmaker period when you

2372
01:34:47,510 --> 01:34:44,940
have a vision and this was a big swing

2373
01:34:50,390 --> 01:34:47,520
and and again I like David Gordon green

2374
01:34:53,390 --> 01:34:50,400
I actually I I really like Joe I hope

2375
01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:53,400
that this does get reevaluated later on

2376
01:34:57,709 --> 01:34:55,199
like Halloween three Season of the Witch

2377
01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:57,719
did and I think people will see that

2378
01:35:02,990 --> 01:35:00,000
this was the better one of all of them

2379
01:35:05,450 --> 01:35:03,000
for sure it was a better film if you're

2380
01:35:08,990 --> 01:35:05,460
looking at like 12 years yeah it was a

2381
01:35:11,390 --> 01:35:09,000
better film you know uh it was totally a

2382
01:35:13,970 --> 01:35:11,400
mess at some points however here's what

2383
01:35:16,910 --> 01:35:13,980
I think the greatest troll of all time

2384
01:35:18,890 --> 01:35:16,920
would have been you give people the

2385
01:35:21,110 --> 01:35:18,900
trailer right with with tonight's the

2386
01:35:23,149 --> 01:35:21,120
final night right

2387
01:35:25,370 --> 01:35:23,159
you open up the movie with that it's

2388
01:35:28,610 --> 01:35:25,380
someone watching it on a TV and that was

2389
01:35:30,169 --> 01:35:28,620
a trailer to to it within this within

2390
01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:30,179
the story and You remake Halloween three

2391
01:35:33,229 --> 01:35:31,679
season the witch

2392
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:33,239
that would be the greatest [\h__\h] troll

2393
01:35:37,310 --> 01:35:35,760
of all time you want to do it you do it

2394
01:35:40,450 --> 01:35:37,320
right Dave and Gordon green You remake

2395
01:35:42,530 --> 01:35:40,460
our movie You remake my movie

2396
01:35:43,970 --> 01:35:42,540
I would have loved that though I would

2397
01:35:46,490 --> 01:35:43,980
how great would have been people going

2398
01:35:49,250 --> 01:35:46,500
what what the [\h__\h] is this we were

2399
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:49,260
talking we were talking about that that

2400
01:35:56,149 --> 01:35:52,560
idea and it was like heaven forbid let's

2401
01:35:58,490 --> 01:35:56,159
say you are like very ill you know you

2402
01:36:00,070 --> 01:35:58,500
have like a year like you know you have

2403
01:36:06,910 --> 01:36:00,080
about a year

2404
01:36:10,430 --> 01:36:08,810
I think it's interesting about where

2405
01:36:12,770 --> 01:36:10,440
like these types of genre films I would

2406
01:36:14,330 --> 01:36:12,780
love like your guys's perceptions on it

2407
01:36:15,410 --> 01:36:14,340
as well as like I'm reading the chat and

2408
01:36:17,510 --> 01:36:15,420
like other stuff you know because again

2409
01:36:18,649 --> 01:36:17,520
this movie's super polarizing and the

2410
01:36:19,850 --> 01:36:18,659
reason why I liked it so one of the

2411
01:36:21,050 --> 01:36:19,860
reason I liked it so much and I think

2412
01:36:22,250 --> 01:36:21,060
you're right I think in like 20 years

2413
01:36:24,290 --> 01:36:22,260
people will go back and you're like no

2414
01:36:26,209 --> 01:36:24,300
man that was that was a good one is

2415
01:36:28,490 --> 01:36:26,219
because it's so different right it's so

2416
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:28,500
it's so different than what I expected

2417
01:36:32,930 --> 01:36:31,679
it was going to be than what I I mean it

2418
01:36:34,610 --> 01:36:32,940
still has the thing like people still

2419
01:36:35,990 --> 01:36:34,620
die but it was different it was just a

2420
01:36:38,450 --> 01:36:36,000
whole different movie which like the

2421
01:36:40,070 --> 01:36:38,460
Halloween 3 the you know the original

2422
01:36:41,870 --> 01:36:40,080
one

2423
01:36:43,370 --> 01:36:41,880
um but I think it's hard about doing a

2424
01:36:46,310 --> 01:36:43,380
horror movie and I get this a lot from

2425
01:36:47,390 --> 01:36:46,320
following I I said earlier like Ryan I

2426
01:36:49,850 --> 01:36:47,400
used to work with an actor who's in

2427
01:36:51,229 --> 01:36:49,860
terrifier too who plays art the clown so

2428
01:36:53,629 --> 01:36:51,239
I follow it really closely just to be

2429
01:36:56,209 --> 01:36:53,639
like this is awesome I'm a kid I'm very

2430
01:36:57,550 --> 01:36:56,219
happy for him uh nicest guy ever by the

2431
01:37:00,350 --> 01:36:57,560
way yeah yeah

2432
01:37:02,450 --> 01:37:00,360
clearly sweet dude yeah Testament to his

2433
01:37:04,610 --> 01:37:02,460
performance yeah and it's beautiful

2434
01:37:05,810 --> 01:37:04,620
working like movement after movement

2435
01:37:06,649 --> 01:37:05,820
blah blah blah I could talk about all

2436
01:37:08,570 --> 01:37:06,659
day

2437
01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:08,580
um but so when you watch a hormone it is

2438
01:37:13,070 --> 01:37:11,280
so hard I think to fulfill plan to

2439
01:37:14,870 --> 01:37:13,080
fulfill fans of these type of movies

2440
01:37:18,530 --> 01:37:14,880
because like you're you've got people

2441
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:18,540
who just want it to be like spectacle in

2442
01:37:22,669 --> 01:37:21,360
terms of the kills yeah right that

2443
01:37:25,250 --> 01:37:22,679
that's you're like I have to fulfill

2444
01:37:27,290 --> 01:37:25,260
that fan so to do that right you have to

2445
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:27,300
like go over the top and it has to be a

2446
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,520
little cheesy like there's those fans

2447
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:31,679
you're the fans who like want like a

2448
01:37:34,729 --> 01:37:32,480
good

2449
01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:34,739
movie we're like I want to watch a

2450
01:37:38,689 --> 01:37:36,480
horror movie that's like a good film

2451
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:38,699
that has good acting good character

2452
01:37:44,209 --> 01:37:42,480
development like good storytelling good

2453
01:37:46,729 --> 01:37:44,219
themes you have those fans and then you

2454
01:37:49,370 --> 01:37:46,739
have fans who like might come into it

2455
01:37:51,229 --> 01:37:49,380
totally like

2456
01:37:52,850 --> 01:37:51,239
just to watch a movie and I'm just gonna

2457
01:37:54,290 --> 01:37:52,860
come into this blind and see what it is

2458
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,300
how my wife watched the first Halloween

2459
01:37:57,229 --> 01:37:56,159
movie and liked it because she came in

2460
01:37:59,689 --> 01:37:57,239
just being like well I've heard good

2461
01:38:01,370 --> 01:37:59,699
things I don't like horror movies but

2462
01:38:03,410 --> 01:38:01,380
let's watch it

2463
01:38:05,209 --> 01:38:03,420
um and she liked it and so I think

2464
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:05,219
that's what I like about this film is he

2465
01:38:08,209 --> 01:38:07,199
basically went okay I'm gonna do

2466
01:38:10,550 --> 01:38:08,219
something completely different because I

2467
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:10,560
can't win I am in a yeah like he did

2468
01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:12,000
Halloween kills which is which is

2469
01:38:16,669 --> 01:38:13,440
different a lot of ways I couldn't win

2470
01:38:18,890 --> 01:38:16,679
2018 I tried to do kind of an Amish film

2471
01:38:20,750 --> 01:38:18,900
couldn't win there so you know what

2472
01:38:23,090 --> 01:38:20,760
[\h__\h] it I'm gonna do what the studio

2473
01:38:25,070 --> 01:38:23,100
told me I have to do I'm making my own

2474
01:38:26,510 --> 01:38:25,080
movie because I can't win anyway which

2475
01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:26,520
is why I like when I read these music

2476
01:38:32,149 --> 01:38:29,600
like it wasn't brutal enough I'm like

2477
01:38:33,610 --> 01:38:32,159
you're not gonna get us neither was the

2478
01:38:35,689 --> 01:38:33,620
first one

2479
01:38:37,310 --> 01:38:35,699
people are forgetting people are

2480
01:38:39,110 --> 01:38:37,320
forgetting the subtlety of the first one

2481
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:39,120
everyone's remembering slash look

2482
01:38:43,970 --> 01:38:41,040
slasher films like you said Nick and

2483
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:43,980
that Nick your great Point you're never

2484
01:38:48,050 --> 01:38:46,320
gonna be able to win we're working on

2485
01:38:49,550 --> 01:38:48,060
this first feature and I'm like people

2486
01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:49,560
are gonna love it or people are gonna

2487
01:38:54,590 --> 01:38:53,040
hate it it builds up to something and if

2488
01:38:55,850 --> 01:38:54,600
people like that pay off great but

2489
01:38:57,169 --> 01:38:55,860
they're gonna people that could be

2490
01:38:59,570 --> 01:38:57,179
people say it's not enough it's not

2491
01:39:01,010 --> 01:38:59,580
brutal enough fine I'm not I'm not a

2492
01:39:03,770 --> 01:39:01,020
slasher film director I'm more of an

2493
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:03,780
atmosphere guy yeah I like I like stuff

2494
01:39:08,209 --> 01:39:06,480
to build and yeah I like but but there's

2495
01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:08,219
a place for terrifier too and there's a

2496
01:39:11,629 --> 01:39:09,600
place where hereditary in this world

2497
01:39:13,370 --> 01:39:11,639
especially in this genre we should have

2498
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:13,380
both we should have both and if you get

2499
01:39:16,370 --> 01:39:15,360
a film that does both and balances out

2500
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:16,380
both great

2501
01:39:20,209 --> 01:39:17,520
but you're never going to please

2502
01:39:21,950 --> 01:39:20,219
everybody so I think you're right I

2503
01:39:23,330 --> 01:39:21,960
think Gordon green was just like I'm

2504
01:39:25,850 --> 01:39:23,340
just gonna do whatever the hell I want

2505
01:39:28,430 --> 01:39:25,860
with this last one and uh I listen to

2506
01:39:30,050 --> 01:39:28,440
the film threat uh podcast it's great I

2507
01:39:31,729 --> 01:39:30,060
suggest everyone goes and listens to it

2508
01:39:33,470 --> 01:39:31,739
it's wonderful

2509
01:39:35,570 --> 01:39:33,480
um and they um they were saying that

2510
01:39:39,050 --> 01:39:35,580
there was a rumor that you know he had a

2511
01:39:40,610 --> 01:39:39,060
last minute change of of uh of mind and

2512
01:39:42,530 --> 01:39:40,620
was like we're rewriting everything for

2513
01:39:45,110 --> 01:39:42,540
this last one so I don't know if that's

2514
01:39:47,390 --> 01:39:45,120
true or not but that it makes sense you

2515
01:39:49,070 --> 01:39:47,400
know it makes sense and and yeah I think

2516
01:39:51,470 --> 01:39:49,080
I think that's like at some point you

2517
01:39:53,930 --> 01:39:51,480
just have to accept your fate as what as

2518
01:39:55,729 --> 01:39:53,940
to what you committed to and yeah I

2519
01:39:57,410 --> 01:39:55,739
would also really uh hope to see a

2520
01:40:00,169 --> 01:39:57,420
director's cut at some point yeah me too

2521
01:40:01,970 --> 01:40:00,179
yeah because I wonder I wonder what he

2522
01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:01,980
was forced to take out either for time

2523
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:04,560
or for Studio notes

2524
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:06,960
um I think three hour cut yeah I would

2525
01:40:11,390 --> 01:40:09,600
be really interested in yeah I wonder if

2526
01:40:13,850 --> 01:40:11,400
Michael Myers wasn't even in this movie

2527
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:13,860
yeah right I would love to see the

2528
01:40:18,830 --> 01:40:16,320
Snyder cut of this movie yes what if

2529
01:40:23,649 --> 01:40:18,840
like again the ultimate trolling What if

2530
01:40:27,070 --> 01:40:26,209
it would have been a better movie right

2531
01:40:29,870 --> 01:40:27,080
yeah

2532
01:40:32,030 --> 01:40:29,880
I think he I think you hit it I think

2533
01:40:34,669 --> 01:40:32,040
that I think Michael Myers was re-shot

2534
01:40:37,850 --> 01:40:34,679
in honestly because if you think about

2535
01:40:40,490 --> 01:40:37,860
it he really did want to do pay homage

2536
01:40:43,310 --> 01:40:40,500
to every single one that he was you know

2537
01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:43,320
the the original trilogy and it would

2538
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,639
make sense that he would completely

2539
01:40:47,450 --> 01:40:46,320
remove Michael Myers from the last one

2540
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:47,460
because that's what they did in

2541
01:40:50,990 --> 01:40:48,719
Halloween for the season of the wedge

2542
01:40:53,090 --> 01:40:51,000
yeah that man that's a good theory man

2543
01:40:55,250 --> 01:40:53,100
right man that's a good fight that's you

2544
01:40:56,570 --> 01:40:55,260
that's not me that was you I wonder if

2545
01:40:58,490 --> 01:40:56,580
like that what if what if that's

2546
01:41:00,350 --> 01:40:58,500
something like that Corey just becomes

2547
01:41:01,970 --> 01:41:00,360
like that's the that's the arc right the

2548
01:41:04,010 --> 01:41:01,980
Quarry becomes the shape and then it's

2549
01:41:07,129 --> 01:41:04,020
not about Michael Myers at [\h__\h] all

2550
01:41:08,689 --> 01:41:07,139
it's about again and that that tracks

2551
01:41:10,910 --> 01:41:08,699
the theme of Haddonfield right they're

2552
01:41:12,649 --> 01:41:10,920
like if your theme of this is trauma and

2553
01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:12,659
Haddonfield the town

2554
01:41:16,189 --> 01:41:14,880
the town is the thing that is evil yeah

2555
01:41:18,110 --> 01:41:16,199
and then the trauma that this family

2556
01:41:19,790 --> 01:41:18,120
experiences which attracts Lori's

2557
01:41:21,770 --> 01:41:19,800
journey to who she is now attracts the

2558
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:21,780
daughter's Journey tracks Corey's

2559
01:41:25,970 --> 01:41:23,760
Journey trauma's effect on Corey in his

2560
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:25,980
relationships and so you have him just

2561
01:41:30,830 --> 01:41:28,080
become the shape and there is no Michael

2562
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,840
Myers Michael Myers he leads like he is

2563
01:41:33,470 --> 01:41:32,639
gone he kills that daughter and he's

2564
01:41:35,390 --> 01:41:33,480
gone

2565
01:41:37,129 --> 01:41:35,400
and so yeah I bet you're right but also

2566
01:41:40,910 --> 01:41:37,139
in the studio was like

2567
01:41:43,729 --> 01:41:40,920
no no no you got it Go reach you and

2568
01:41:46,370 --> 01:41:43,739
everything what did she do he says okay

2569
01:41:50,290 --> 01:41:46,380
I'll put Michael Myers in and then boom

2570
01:41:53,570 --> 01:41:50,300
kills him there's no there's no like

2571
01:41:55,970 --> 01:41:53,580
chance that he's coming back [\h__\h] you

2572
01:41:59,390 --> 01:41:55,980
Executives yeah like good luck making

2573
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:59,400
another Michael Myers because the shot

2574
01:42:05,450 --> 01:42:01,679
of him if if you've not seen this movie

2575
01:42:08,689 --> 01:42:05,460
I'm about to spoil it the very end they

2576
01:42:10,370 --> 01:42:08,699
there's no clearer way to say this man

2577
01:42:12,410 --> 01:42:10,380
is physically dead because they've tried

2578
01:42:15,050 --> 01:42:12,420
chopping a set off he came back like

2579
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:15,060
they they just smooshed him in a car

2580
01:42:18,649 --> 01:42:17,040
grinder is that what that machine is

2581
01:42:21,169 --> 01:42:18,659
called and then and then okay so so

2582
01:42:23,570 --> 01:42:21,179
Bethany I had the hugest biggest problem

2583
01:42:25,310 --> 01:42:23,580
with that ending so so then it says you

2584
01:42:27,890 --> 01:42:25,320
know she's doing the voiceover and in an

2585
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:27,900
unceremonious way and The Whole Town's

2586
01:42:32,510 --> 01:42:30,480
following us away I said wait I was like

2587
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:32,520
wait a minute [\h__\h] citizen app evil

2588
01:42:37,490 --> 01:42:35,760
dies tonight like like a notification to

2589
01:42:40,010 --> 01:42:37,500
join Lori Strode like I was like what is

2590
01:42:41,629 --> 01:42:40,020
this and also did anyone else yeah did

2591
01:42:44,090 --> 01:42:41,639
anyone else think Lori was going in

2592
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:44,100
after him into the grinder I was like is

2593
01:42:47,689 --> 01:42:45,600
she gonna is someone gonna push her in

2594
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,699
it's like Corey gonna like jump up and

2595
01:42:51,590 --> 01:42:49,440
push her or is she like gonna jump in

2596
01:42:54,350 --> 01:42:51,600
after him to ensure I was like we're

2597
01:42:56,450 --> 01:42:54,360
losing two tonight I bet Bethany I bet

2598
01:42:59,689 --> 01:42:56,460
they shot that too I bet they shot it

2599
01:43:06,970 --> 01:42:59,699
too she literally like hops in with it

2600
01:43:11,090 --> 01:43:09,290
Nick on sensuality you know I have to

2601
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,100
say this too Ryan Tyler's podcast

2602
01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:13,280
Halloween sent to Alex

2603
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,320
uh Ryan you you highlighted Randall's

2604
01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:18,000
comment which was great which was there

2605
01:43:20,689 --> 01:43:19,440
are so many shitty sequels in this

2606
01:43:22,189 --> 01:43:20,699
franchise that it was kind of refreshing

2607
01:43:24,109 --> 01:43:22,199
to see something different I agree

2608
01:43:26,030 --> 01:43:24,119
that's a good point if you put this up

2609
01:43:28,189 --> 01:43:26,040
against everything else that's why I say

2610
01:43:30,590 --> 01:43:28,199
it I really think he deserves a

2611
01:43:32,510 --> 01:43:30,600
re-examination I also root for the

2612
01:43:34,970 --> 01:43:32,520
underdog if people hate something I'm

2613
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:34,980
usually like I like it

2614
01:43:42,770 --> 01:43:37,679
all the alternate dog in this oh no [\h__\h]

2615
01:43:47,149 --> 01:43:45,649
there Vincent D'Onofrio isn't in it yeah

2616
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:47,159
and the reason why I worked for the

2617
01:43:51,290 --> 01:43:49,199
underdog and terrifier not to not to

2618
01:43:52,850 --> 01:43:51,300
bring it uh not to bring it too off

2619
01:43:55,370 --> 01:43:52,860
course but terrifier is a great example

2620
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:55,380
of that terrifier one rotten everyone

2621
01:43:59,629 --> 01:43:57,840
hated it well critics critics critics

2622
01:44:02,390 --> 01:43:59,639
hated it criticated I think what he did

2623
01:44:04,850 --> 01:44:02,400
was great it was a call back to like we

2624
01:44:07,250 --> 01:44:04,860
have suddenly we have like another uh

2625
01:44:11,330 --> 01:44:07,260
iconic slasher hero and I'm not a

2626
01:44:13,250 --> 01:44:11,340
slasher guy but you he Leo Damien great

2627
01:44:15,169 --> 01:44:13,260
guy Staten Island guy love him to death

2628
01:44:16,729 --> 01:44:15,179
he I don't know him but like I just love

2629
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:16,739
hearing his voice because I'm like those

2630
01:44:19,970 --> 01:44:18,239
are my friends

2631
01:44:23,629 --> 01:44:19,980
um because I'm from Staten Island so

2632
01:44:24,890 --> 01:44:23,639
anyway he um he took the critiques and

2633
01:44:27,530 --> 01:44:24,900
he made something better with terrifier

2634
01:44:30,590 --> 01:44:27,540
too now it's like 90 fresh you know what

2635
01:44:32,570 --> 01:44:30,600
I mean so it's like so you

2636
01:44:34,250 --> 01:44:32,580
from an underdog comes

2637
01:44:35,930 --> 01:44:34,260
good things you know what I mean and

2638
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:35,940
like if you that's why I always root for

2639
01:44:39,169 --> 01:44:37,199
the underdog I always say like and I

2640
01:44:40,669 --> 01:44:39,179
feel like this movie is just like

2641
01:44:42,290 --> 01:44:40,679
Halloween 3 in the sense that it is

2642
01:44:44,450 --> 01:44:42,300
Halloween three seasons of The Witch it

2643
01:44:46,370 --> 01:44:44,460
is the underdog and I think it deserves

2644
01:44:49,250 --> 01:44:46,380
to be re-examined when people have

2645
01:44:51,410 --> 01:44:49,260
calmed down a little bit uh this this

2646
01:44:52,850 --> 01:44:51,420
literally was the movie they did to this

2647
01:44:54,590 --> 01:44:52,860
movie what they did to Michael Myers in

2648
01:44:56,689 --> 01:44:54,600
Halloween kills the entire town that

2649
01:44:59,689 --> 01:44:56,699
wanted Michael Myers went and burned

2650
01:45:01,430 --> 01:44:59,699
this movie to the ground and I don't

2651
01:45:04,250 --> 01:45:01,440
think it deserves that I really don't

2652
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:04,260
know I yeah yeah I really think it's the

2653
01:45:07,669 --> 01:45:06,239
underdog and I will rise up at some

2654
01:45:10,010 --> 01:45:07,679
point and people will go you know it was

2655
01:45:12,770 --> 01:45:10,020
a bit of a movie listen it has issues as

2656
01:45:14,750 --> 01:45:12,780
a film like definitely it has issues but

2657
01:45:17,149 --> 01:45:14,760
again I I challenge anyone in this

2658
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:17,159
conversation especially slasher film I'm

2659
01:45:21,410 --> 01:45:19,199
going back to a very specific horror

2660
01:45:24,050 --> 01:45:21,420
movie genre find me a slash home besides

2661
01:45:26,510 --> 01:45:24,060
maybe the first Halloween movie and

2662
01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:26,520
maybe the first like the first Halloween

2663
01:45:29,990 --> 01:45:28,800
or the first Friday 13th the first

2664
01:45:32,270 --> 01:45:30,000
nightmare announce you're like the big

2665
01:45:34,850 --> 01:45:32,280
the big ones right like the the Holy

2666
01:45:37,370 --> 01:45:34,860
Grail of this genre that is not does not

2667
01:45:38,290 --> 01:45:37,380
have problems like look yeah I totally

2668
01:45:40,669 --> 01:45:38,300
dude

2669
01:45:42,169 --> 01:45:40,679
it's part of the genre it's part of it's

2670
01:45:44,090 --> 01:45:42,179
part of what you're signing up to watch

2671
01:45:46,669 --> 01:45:44,100
and be a part of like you're gonna

2672
01:45:48,649 --> 01:45:46,679
sacrifice somewhere so like

2673
01:45:50,030 --> 01:45:48,659
it's weird people don't want to mix

2674
01:45:51,410 --> 01:45:50,040
right we don't remakes we want

2675
01:45:52,609 --> 01:45:51,420
originality but then you do that and

2676
01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:52,619
you're like same thing with Return of

2677
01:45:56,090 --> 01:45:54,719
the Jedi right you don't want you want I

2678
01:45:58,490 --> 01:45:56,100
don't want rich I don't want remakes I

2679
01:46:00,830 --> 01:45:58,500
want original so the director's like

2680
01:46:03,770 --> 01:46:00,840
okay here's an original I hate it and

2681
01:46:06,890 --> 01:46:03,780
everyone hates it exactly now to put an

2682
01:46:08,209 --> 01:46:06,900
asterisk on that uh uh Nick I urge

2683
01:46:09,890 --> 01:46:08,219
everyone who's like there wasn't enough

2684
01:46:11,990 --> 01:46:09,900
Michael Myers there wasn't enough debt

2685
01:46:13,970 --> 01:46:12,000
oh killing whatever go back and watch

2686
01:46:15,950 --> 01:46:13,980
the first one it is all atmosphere it's

2687
01:46:17,450 --> 01:46:15,960
all the fear of what might happen and

2688
01:46:19,010 --> 01:46:17,460
then there's some big kills in it but

2689
01:46:20,810 --> 01:46:19,020
they're not huge they're not super

2690
01:46:23,450 --> 01:46:20,820
there's like you know they're not

2691
01:46:26,689 --> 01:46:23,460
there's not that much as people remember

2692
01:46:28,729 --> 01:46:26,699
it was a slow burn it was more it was

2693
01:46:30,709 --> 01:46:28,739
one of the slowest Birds now funny thing

2694
01:46:32,090 --> 01:46:30,719
is Friday the 13th the the people who

2695
01:46:34,189 --> 01:46:32,100
produced that were like we need our

2696
01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:34,199
Halloween but with a bunch of kills and

2697
01:46:38,510 --> 01:46:36,719
horny teens there's more kills in Friday

2698
01:46:40,850 --> 01:46:38,520
the 13th the first one than there is in

2699
01:46:42,050 --> 01:46:40,860
Halloween because there's mystery

2700
01:46:44,750 --> 01:46:42,060
because you still don't know that's

2701
01:46:46,790 --> 01:46:44,760
exactly so great Elm Street introduces

2702
01:46:49,850 --> 01:46:46,800
the idea of like what if your killer is

2703
01:46:51,530 --> 01:46:49,860
a character not just the right yeah but

2704
01:46:53,450 --> 01:46:51,540
you're right that's why homie the very

2705
01:46:56,689 --> 01:46:53,460
first Halloween is so [\h__\h] good

2706
01:46:58,850 --> 01:46:56,699
because like I remember watching I watch

2707
01:47:00,649 --> 01:46:58,860
it now and I'm just it's still and I I

2708
01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:00,659
know the Beats right I know

2709
01:47:04,430 --> 01:47:02,639
and it's because you were sitting there

2710
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:04,440
the whole time just going

2711
01:47:10,370 --> 01:47:08,400
it's so slow that movie is so slow it

2712
01:47:12,350 --> 01:47:10,380
plays on fear right this this innate

2713
01:47:15,050 --> 01:47:12,360
fear that we have as people right that

2714
01:47:17,390 --> 01:47:15,060
you are being watched or followed or

2715
01:47:21,649 --> 01:47:17,400
hunted like you Jamie Lee Curtis is

2716
01:47:24,050 --> 01:47:21,659
being [\h__\h] hunted me and it draws on

2717
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:24,060
this Primal like

2718
01:47:27,890 --> 01:47:26,159
moment and that's when the 2018 movie

2719
01:47:29,629 --> 01:47:27,900
does really well in the bathroom stall

2720
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:29,639
part of it like the very well the very

2721
01:47:33,530 --> 01:47:31,440
first that's a good scene that's a good

2722
01:47:36,109 --> 01:47:33,540
team yeah but so Halloween the original

2723
01:47:38,270 --> 01:47:36,119
Halloween is that scene but for an hour

2724
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:38,280
for an hour and then like 30 minutes of

2725
01:47:42,830 --> 01:47:40,320
the of the actual like the cheetah

2726
01:47:45,229 --> 01:47:42,840
chasing the gazelle yeah

2727
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,239
yeah and you couldn't do what Halloween

2728
01:47:49,129 --> 01:47:47,280
1978 did because people don't have the

2729
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:49,139
attention span for that anymore exactly

2730
01:47:54,350 --> 01:47:51,840
they don't have the patience like I I I

2731
01:47:56,209 --> 01:47:54,360
enjoy movies that want you to be patient

2732
01:47:58,370 --> 01:47:56,219
and but that doesn't put asses in seats

2733
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:58,380
you know what I mean so you have to kind

2734
01:48:01,370 --> 01:48:00,239
of find the the balance you know which I

2735
01:48:03,229 --> 01:48:01,380
think is what he tried to do with us

2736
01:48:04,430 --> 01:48:03,239
right yeah

2737
01:48:06,050 --> 01:48:04,440
um I just think I think the break was

2738
01:48:08,450 --> 01:48:06,060
too hard like it started off in a thing

2739
01:48:09,709 --> 01:48:08,460
and like he said break too hard and then

2740
01:48:11,750 --> 01:48:09,719
you have to do all this character

2741
01:48:13,310 --> 01:48:11,760
development too quickly which again had

2742
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:13,320
this been the second movie had I got my

2743
01:48:19,189 --> 01:48:16,560
own had I got my Force awakens

2744
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:19,199
movie in 2018 because I want that I want

2745
01:48:22,189 --> 01:48:20,639
I want I want I want the chicken noodle

2746
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:22,199
soup I want that chicken noodle soup I

2747
01:48:25,790 --> 01:48:24,000
want that that little like I know what

2748
01:48:27,530 --> 01:48:25,800
I'm getting this feels right I'm into

2749
01:48:29,629 --> 01:48:27,540
this and then the second movie you're

2750
01:48:31,910 --> 01:48:29,639
like and now for something sorry Nick

2751
01:48:35,410 --> 01:48:31,920
wants his Force awakened we need a new

2752
01:48:35,420 --> 01:48:40,090
Welcome to Nick on Central

2753
01:48:44,209 --> 01:48:42,530
uh right and then done this I'm like

2754
01:48:45,770 --> 01:48:44,219
okay I got that and now for something

2755
01:48:47,810 --> 01:48:45,780
completely different this is what this

2756
01:48:50,510 --> 01:48:47,820
Trilogy is going to be I would have been

2757
01:48:52,370 --> 01:48:50,520
like in a twin because I got my little I

2758
01:48:54,590 --> 01:48:52,380
got my little uh little shimmy got my

2759
01:48:56,510 --> 01:48:54,600
little like what I needed and then and

2760
01:48:59,270 --> 01:48:56,520
then I get your Michael Myers Myers

2761
01:49:01,970 --> 01:48:59,280
shimmy when he Powers up after that

2762
01:49:03,229 --> 01:49:01,980
murder yeah like I want to be a little

2763
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:03,239
Michael Myers I want me a Little Dream

2764
01:49:06,950 --> 01:49:05,040
of the curse I want I want that old dude

2765
01:49:10,669 --> 01:49:06,960
walk around that creepy ass mask again I

2766
01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:12,590
speaking of which we should mention Nick

2767
01:49:19,070 --> 01:49:16,159
Castle was in this movie yes yeah

2768
01:49:21,350 --> 01:49:19,080
that was awesome that was awesome that

2769
01:49:23,689 --> 01:49:21,360
was awesome he got his line I mean that

2770
01:49:25,850 --> 01:49:23,699
was like homage on a mage you gotta see

2771
01:49:28,910 --> 01:49:25,860
something you like yeah and he got okay

2772
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:28,920
yeah let's let's Okay so we've run

2773
01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:30,960
through the plot the characters

2774
01:49:34,669 --> 01:49:33,119
um homages are there anywhere missing

2775
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:34,679
that you guys picked up or Easter eggs

2776
01:49:38,450 --> 01:49:36,719
that we haven't talked about we'll start

2777
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,460
to wrap things up here because I got a

2778
01:49:42,770 --> 01:49:40,560
few final questions for years yeah but

2779
01:49:45,290 --> 01:49:42,780
yeah in terms of Easter eggs or anything

2780
01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:45,300
people should look out for I I I think

2781
01:49:49,850 --> 01:49:47,520
the greatest homage is the movie itself

2782
01:49:52,430 --> 01:49:49,860
uh taking Michael Myers out of the film

2783
01:49:55,010 --> 01:49:52,440
and really making it like the feeling

2784
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:55,020
that people had when you watched

2785
01:49:58,370 --> 01:49:56,639
Halloween three Season of the Witch for

2786
01:50:00,350 --> 01:49:58,380
those who wanted more Michael Myers they

2787
01:50:01,850 --> 01:50:00,360
didn't get that I think that was his

2788
01:50:04,970 --> 01:50:01,860
actual actually I think that was his

2789
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:04,980
greatest homage was making it almost to

2790
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:07,440
the T like that feeling of he knew he

2791
01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:08,639
was going to do his Halloween three

2792
01:50:12,169 --> 01:50:10,320
Season of the Witch and he [\h__\h] did

2793
01:50:14,330 --> 01:50:12,179
it and man would have swing that's my

2794
01:50:15,590 --> 01:50:14,340
personality question for you but how was

2795
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:15,600
that movie received when it came out

2796
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:17,280
like what was the result following three

2797
01:50:23,830 --> 01:50:20,400
yeah terrible go watch my documentary on

2798
01:50:30,050 --> 01:50:27,709
no it was it was it was panned hey the

2799
01:50:32,330 --> 01:50:30,060
franchise was dead franchise yeah the

2800
01:50:34,370 --> 01:50:32,340
franchise they were like and and this

2801
01:50:36,050 --> 01:50:34,380
was John Carpenter and Deborah Hill

2802
01:50:37,790 --> 01:50:36,060
saying we are going to do something

2803
01:50:39,649 --> 01:50:37,800
different we're going to take this in an

2804
01:50:42,050 --> 01:50:39,659
anthology direction that would have been

2805
01:50:44,030 --> 01:50:42,060
awesome imagine every Halloween we got a

2806
01:50:46,010 --> 01:50:44,040
different Halloween I would love that oh

2807
01:50:46,930 --> 01:50:46,020
my God Halloween 2 ruined that yeah

2808
01:50:48,770 --> 01:50:46,940
right

2809
01:50:50,330 --> 01:50:48,780
yeah well it was really Halloween

2810
01:50:53,090 --> 01:50:50,340
Halloween three was the thing that

2811
01:50:55,310 --> 01:50:53,100
ruined it because they said Michael

2812
01:50:57,950 --> 01:50:55,320
Myers burned in that hospital we have to

2813
01:50:59,270 --> 01:50:57,960
do we want to do something new and this

2814
01:51:01,669 --> 01:50:59,280
was this was people coming up with

2815
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:01,679
something actually original you know so

2816
01:51:07,370 --> 01:51:04,560
but yeah long story short it tanked

2817
01:51:09,530 --> 01:51:07,380
tanked yeah and then years later now

2818
01:51:11,209 --> 01:51:09,540
it's loved now it's University of

2819
01:51:13,070 --> 01:51:11,219
Netflix like it's streaming existed this

2820
01:51:14,450 --> 01:51:13,080
would have been like a screaming horror

2821
01:51:16,609 --> 01:51:14,460
movie series where like the first movie

2822
01:51:17,870 --> 01:51:16,619
is it was Halloween even if you were

2823
01:51:19,310 --> 01:51:17,880
doing the second one like people are

2824
01:51:21,229 --> 01:51:19,320
beating that [\h__\h] up and been like oh no

2825
01:51:23,330 --> 01:51:21,239
man dude Breeze here and it's something

2826
01:51:25,010 --> 01:51:23,340
completely different my my personal

2827
01:51:25,970 --> 01:51:25,020
story with Halloween three Season of the

2828
01:51:29,390 --> 01:51:25,980
Witch was

2829
01:51:31,070 --> 01:51:29,400
I so I didn't grow up like I I grew up

2830
01:51:33,649 --> 01:51:31,080
in a time where whatever was on TV is

2831
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:33,659
what you watched right yeah I'm older so

2832
01:51:37,129 --> 01:51:35,520
listen I think we're the same age friend

2833
01:51:38,750 --> 01:51:37,139
though we're all the Veronica I think

2834
01:51:41,330 --> 01:51:38,760
we're all around the same room yeah so

2835
01:51:42,770 --> 01:51:41,340
so I saw Halloween three seasons of The

2836
01:51:45,050 --> 01:51:42,780
Witch first out of all the Halloween

2837
01:51:46,729 --> 01:51:45,060
movies I never knew that Michael Myers

2838
01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:46,739
existed so I didn't even know Michael

2839
01:51:50,090 --> 01:51:48,960
Myers so I was like so then my friends

2840
01:51:51,590 --> 01:51:50,100
were like wait you've never seen the

2841
01:51:53,570 --> 01:51:51,600
first Halloween I'm like yeah no I've

2842
01:51:54,890 --> 01:51:53,580
never so they put it in and I'm like

2843
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:54,900
who's this guy what does this have to do

2844
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:56,400
with the masks what's going on like

2845
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:58,320
where's the continuation and then they

2846
01:52:01,790 --> 01:52:00,000
explained to me no that movie screwed

2847
01:52:04,030 --> 01:52:01,800
everything up and I was like but I liked

2848
01:52:08,450 --> 01:52:06,410
oh it was so good I wish they had gone

2849
01:52:11,109 --> 01:52:08,460
on with that uh yeah I'm sorry so I've

2850
01:52:13,550 --> 01:52:11,119
diverted too much yeah it's okay

2851
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:13,560
one of the um

2852
01:52:19,070 --> 01:52:16,320
one of the Easter eggs I loved too was

2853
01:52:21,470 --> 01:52:19,080
so in the original 1978 version they

2854
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:21,480
showed uh the movie they were watching

2855
01:52:28,729 --> 01:52:25,920
was the thing yes this one it was John

2856
01:52:31,609 --> 01:52:28,739
Carpenter's yes so that was a great

2857
01:52:34,250 --> 01:52:31,619
great that was awesome that was awesome

2858
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,260
yeah that's Bethany's favorite horror

2859
01:52:39,109 --> 01:52:36,480
movie thing it's a perfect horror film

2860
01:52:41,090 --> 01:52:39,119
The First Time like no correct me if I'm

2861
01:52:43,070 --> 01:52:41,100
wrong that one was also universally

2862
01:52:45,770 --> 01:52:43,080
panned and that wow that one basically

2863
01:52:47,870 --> 01:52:45,780
almost ended John Carpenter's career yep

2864
01:52:49,609 --> 01:52:47,880
yep and now it's beloved wait I can't

2865
01:52:51,770 --> 01:52:49,619
wait to do the Deep dive on that I have

2866
01:52:54,350 --> 01:52:51,780
so much to say and I've learned so much

2867
01:52:56,870 --> 01:52:54,360
about his journey and his Pro and his

2868
01:52:57,950 --> 01:52:56,880
like process of making that film it is

2869
01:53:02,689 --> 01:52:57,960
such

2870
01:53:04,129 --> 01:53:02,699
you know it's wonderful and I that's I

2871
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:04,139
like covering movies like that that were

2872
01:53:07,490 --> 01:53:05,520
originally like seen as like these are

2873
01:53:09,229 --> 01:53:07,500
terrible like what what did you do but

2874
01:53:10,910 --> 01:53:09,239
then you start to put it into context of

2875
01:53:12,890 --> 01:53:10,920
the time and the other films that were

2876
01:53:15,169 --> 01:53:12,900
out look Blade Runner came out the same

2877
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,179
day they were both panned by critics and

2878
01:53:20,270 --> 01:53:17,520
now it's crazy to me I know wow I know

2879
01:53:22,370 --> 01:53:20,280
and now there's another Classics and I

2880
01:53:25,310 --> 01:53:22,380
think that's what time does and I think

2881
01:53:27,530 --> 01:53:25,320
you guys are right this movie I think in

2882
01:53:29,629 --> 01:53:27,540
10 years will look back because who

2883
01:53:32,450 --> 01:53:29,639
knows where film will be in 10 years or

2884
01:53:35,390 --> 01:53:32,460
what will be kind of the mainstream

2885
01:53:37,129 --> 01:53:35,400
perception of what a good film is uh I

2886
01:53:38,689 --> 01:53:37,139
think this film will become one of those

2887
01:53:40,189 --> 01:53:38,699
ones that people will look back on and

2888
01:53:41,629 --> 01:53:40,199
be like yeah I want something with

2889
01:53:44,270 --> 01:53:41,639
substance I'm gonna go watch that

2890
01:53:45,770 --> 01:53:44,280
Halloween ends because I remember I

2891
01:53:48,109 --> 01:53:45,780
didn't like it but then I did but then I

2892
01:53:49,790 --> 01:53:48,119
didn't but then I did I think the

2893
01:53:51,290 --> 01:53:49,800
trilogy will be looked back I think you

2894
01:53:52,490 --> 01:53:51,300
will have people with this movie just

2895
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:52,500
like the one we asked we have like

2896
01:53:56,810 --> 01:53:54,719
Halloween one and two right and then you

2897
01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:56,820
go to H2O which I think is that that

2898
01:54:00,830 --> 01:53:58,800
trilogy and you you have people watch

2899
01:54:02,450 --> 01:54:00,840
that who are like no I love like I love

2900
01:54:04,370 --> 01:54:02,460
the first two Halloween movies and then

2901
01:54:05,870 --> 01:54:04,380
follow me screws okay but like I'm cool

2902
01:54:07,669 --> 01:54:05,880
with that so right you have people I

2903
01:54:10,250 --> 01:54:07,679
know that are like hardcore I don't know

2904
01:54:12,830 --> 01:54:10,260
how hardcore to four five six like they

2905
01:54:14,149 --> 01:54:12,840
even six they're like no I love four

2906
01:54:15,169 --> 01:54:14,159
five six I think you have people with

2907
01:54:16,850 --> 01:54:15,179
this Trail should be like no no no no

2908
01:54:18,850 --> 01:54:16,860
and then you have Dennis who's like

2909
01:54:22,430 --> 01:54:18,860
Halloween three [\h__\h]

2910
01:54:24,290 --> 01:54:22,440
well and I think I think I think if I'm

2911
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:24,300
gonna I'm gonna withhold I did not like

2912
01:54:28,010 --> 01:54:25,920
it I'm gonna withhold judgment until I

2913
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:28,020
see the actual full I just want a

2914
01:54:31,850 --> 01:54:29,520
director's cut I want to know what the

2915
01:54:33,350 --> 01:54:31,860
intention was like if this was the true

2916
01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:33,360
vision of what the movie was supposed to

2917
01:54:38,810 --> 01:54:35,280
be or if there was so much interference

2918
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:38,820
being done that it became something that

2919
01:54:43,250 --> 01:54:41,280
you know that the green didn't

2920
01:54:47,570 --> 01:54:43,260
anticipate or didn't intend or didn't

2921
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:47,580
want I think I I I I just feel like it's

2922
01:54:53,090 --> 01:54:51,360
so erratic that even in the absence of

2923
01:54:55,790 --> 01:54:53,100
like all of the other movies or even

2924
01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:55,800
with some time passing I feel like the

2925
01:54:59,870 --> 01:54:57,840
erratic nature of that of that really

2926
01:55:02,629 --> 01:54:59,880
relationship between Allison and Corey

2927
01:55:04,430 --> 01:55:02,639
that got just like so blown up so

2928
01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:04,440
quickly I feel like that still is going

2929
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:07,440
to feel too fast and I really want to

2930
01:55:11,090 --> 01:55:10,080
know what the original vision for that

2931
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:11,100
was

2932
01:55:14,930 --> 01:55:12,480
um because it just

2933
01:55:16,850 --> 01:55:14,940
I I want to like this movie because

2934
01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:16,860
Jamie Lee Curtis is

2935
01:55:21,109 --> 01:55:19,199
such an icon and I love this character

2936
01:55:22,490 --> 01:55:21,119
and I love that she has been afforded

2937
01:55:23,990 --> 01:55:22,500
the opportunity

2938
01:55:30,890 --> 01:55:24,000
to

2939
01:55:32,870 --> 01:55:30,900
like that is such a long so yeah I know

2940
01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:32,880
right so many times

2941
01:55:37,129 --> 01:55:34,800
um that is such a gift I think to a

2942
01:55:39,470 --> 01:55:37,139
performer to really be given the

2943
01:55:41,930 --> 01:55:39,480
opportunity to develop a character over

2944
01:55:44,570 --> 01:55:41,940
40 years like what an amazing

2945
01:55:47,870 --> 01:55:44,580
opportunity so I really want to love it

2946
01:55:51,290 --> 01:55:47,880
and I I just need I I hope that we get a

2947
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:51,300
chance to see like the full vision of it

2948
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:54,000
um you know in a director's cut I think

2949
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,840
Jamie Lee Curtis cut yes he signs off on

2950
01:56:00,590 --> 01:55:59,520
too like I feel like when you're getting

2951
01:56:01,430 --> 01:56:00,600
her to come back because she doesn't

2952
01:56:06,470 --> 01:56:01,440
have to

2953
01:56:08,330 --> 01:56:06,480
she did like she was contractually

2954
01:56:11,149 --> 01:56:08,340
obligated

2955
01:56:17,950 --> 01:56:11,159
um back in the day I think even H2O was

2956
01:56:21,890 --> 01:56:20,030
I wonder if she was contractually

2957
01:56:23,930 --> 01:56:21,900
obligated for this Trilogy like because

2958
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:23,940
it would be difficult to sign on for I

2959
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:26,400
mean I have no idea I'm guessing because

2960
01:56:32,330 --> 01:56:29,520
it would be really difficult to have a

2961
01:56:33,229 --> 01:56:32,340
Trilogy with the this Full Slate of like

2962
01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:33,239
we're going to end it with Halloween

2963
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:36,719
ends and not have her in it so I wonder

2964
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:38,880
if it was like well if the first one

2965
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:41,280
does well and we do end up doing you

2966
01:56:45,590 --> 01:56:42,960
have to then contractually come out but

2967
01:56:46,910 --> 01:56:45,600
then I don't know to be like okay I know

2968
01:56:48,410 --> 01:56:46,920
I'm coming back and do this character

2969
01:56:51,470 --> 01:56:48,420
for at least this one like I like what

2970
01:56:54,830 --> 01:56:51,480
your plans are for 2018. I'm coming back

2971
01:56:58,070 --> 01:56:54,840
into this yeah um it made a [\h__\h] ton of

2972
01:57:00,910 --> 01:56:58,080
money oh God damn it yeah I will I will

2973
01:57:04,970 --> 01:57:00,920
say I will say this uh

2974
01:57:07,370 --> 01:57:04,980
she as a human being is one of the most

2975
01:57:10,729 --> 01:57:07,380
wonderful people she stood by David

2976
01:57:13,370 --> 01:57:10,739
Gordon green so much throughout all this

2977
01:57:14,990 --> 01:57:13,380
never turned on him you see a lot of

2978
01:57:16,370 --> 01:57:15,000
people turning on directors you see a

2979
01:57:19,250 --> 01:57:16,380
lot of people saying well you know I've

2980
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:19,260
when the bad reviews come in yeah she

2981
01:57:23,570 --> 01:57:21,840
has stuck by him and said this man has a

2982
01:57:26,270 --> 01:57:23,580
vision I believe in it and I'm gonna

2983
01:57:28,609 --> 01:57:26,280
stick with it to the very end that's so

2984
01:57:30,890 --> 01:57:28,619
classy and like God bless that woman you

2985
01:57:32,689 --> 01:57:30,900
know for all that she's done you know

2986
01:57:34,669 --> 01:57:32,699
she's literally she's literally isn't

2987
01:57:37,970 --> 01:57:34,679
she a duchess and all of us are saying

2988
01:57:39,709 --> 01:57:37,980
David Gordon green I mean so many people

2989
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:39,719
were like Gordon Green's a hack or

2990
01:57:44,270 --> 01:57:41,520
whatever she's like I I will stand by

2991
01:57:46,129 --> 01:57:44,280
this man and I I fully respect that and

2992
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:46,139
whatever their relationship was like as

2993
01:57:50,270 --> 01:57:47,760
a director that's a dream you want

2994
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:50,280
people to stand by you even if it's

2995
01:57:53,589 --> 01:57:50,890
failing

2996
01:57:56,270 --> 01:57:53,599
[Applause]

2997
01:57:58,129 --> 01:57:56,280
he can't be because this is he's not

2998
01:58:02,390 --> 01:57:58,139
whether you like calling kills or not

2999
01:58:04,870 --> 01:58:02,400
like his other films like the

3000
01:58:07,250 --> 01:58:04,880
the filmmaking like the actual like

3001
01:58:09,649 --> 01:58:07,260
cinematography filmmaking it's very

3002
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:09,659
beautiful and all of it whether you like

3003
01:58:13,609 --> 01:58:11,280
the smell like I like watching they're

3004
01:58:15,950 --> 01:58:13,619
they're enjoyable to watch but the

3005
01:58:19,370 --> 01:58:15,960
acting so my thing is that dude whatever

3006
01:58:21,770 --> 01:58:19,380
he's doing right every person he casts

3007
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:21,780
in these movies gives

3008
01:58:25,310 --> 01:58:23,520
a good word even if it's over the top

3009
01:58:28,430 --> 01:58:25,320
and Goofy I'm like no it's committed

3010
01:58:31,010 --> 01:58:28,440
it's specific and like trust me that's

3011
01:58:32,530 --> 01:58:31,020
an actor's job and I get that but that

3012
01:58:34,910 --> 01:58:32,540
also means because film has never been

3013
01:58:37,010 --> 01:58:34,920
medium too that means like those actors

3014
01:58:38,510 --> 01:58:37,020
were in it to win it for him and they

3015
01:58:41,570 --> 01:58:38,520
did they did their [\h__\h] because there's

3016
01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,580
no like phone in no CD performance even

3017
01:58:47,050 --> 01:58:43,679
from the kids and kid actors are hard

3018
01:58:54,050 --> 01:58:51,109
any issues I have with any of these last

3019
01:58:56,870 --> 01:58:54,060
three movies are in the writing I think

3020
01:58:59,870 --> 01:58:56,880
that the script is tough and I think

3021
01:59:02,089 --> 01:58:59,880
that the story is rushed I think that

3022
01:59:04,010 --> 01:59:02,099
the acting is on point I think that

3023
01:59:06,050 --> 01:59:04,020
there are moments that are cringy for me

3024
01:59:08,510 --> 01:59:06,060
with some of the child actors dialogues

3025
01:59:09,830 --> 01:59:08,520
in earlier in the earlier films and like

3026
01:59:12,350 --> 01:59:09,840
some of the Teen dialogue is pretty

3027
01:59:15,050 --> 01:59:12,360
tough but again the kids are selling it

3028
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:15,060
it's the writing that I think is is

3029
01:59:20,510 --> 01:59:18,719
Again by committee or to yeah just a

3030
01:59:22,129 --> 01:59:20,520
little bit wrong I mean like you know

3031
01:59:23,510 --> 01:59:22,139
everyone's like [\h__\h] he's doing The

3032
01:59:25,970 --> 01:59:23,520
Exorcist I don't think the Exorcist

3033
01:59:27,770 --> 01:59:25,980
needs to be rebooted at all but is he

3034
01:59:30,890 --> 01:59:27,780
doing The Exorcist that's his next

3035
01:59:32,629 --> 01:59:30,900
project really so I I'm hoping that they

3036
01:59:34,729 --> 01:59:32,639
have a good right I mean like look

3037
01:59:35,990 --> 01:59:34,739
writing right now I personally think

3038
01:59:37,970 --> 01:59:36,000
this is my personal opinion I think

3039
01:59:40,129 --> 01:59:37,980
writing is in the toilet right now with

3040
01:59:41,689 --> 01:59:40,139
with most films most bigger films that

3041
01:59:43,370 --> 01:59:41,699
are coming out the writing is just

3042
01:59:44,810 --> 01:59:43,380
abysmal

3043
01:59:46,850 --> 01:59:44,820
um you know so I'm hoping that we're

3044
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:46,860
going to see a turn somewhere with where

3045
01:59:50,870 --> 01:59:48,480
we're where there's actually well

3046
01:59:53,290 --> 01:59:50,880
written dialogue because we really are

3047
01:59:55,490 --> 01:59:53,300
lacking that especially in the horror

3048
01:59:57,410 --> 01:59:55,500
you know this is why people gravitate

3049
01:59:59,330 --> 01:59:57,420
towards a24 because they're written well

3050
02:00:01,310 --> 01:59:59,340
you know the characters are written well

3051
02:00:03,229 --> 02:00:01,320
they're it's good writing you know and

3052
02:00:05,990 --> 02:00:03,239
then but look then you have a terrifier

3053
02:00:08,450 --> 02:00:06,000
too which is like pure fun and but but

3054
02:00:10,370 --> 02:00:08,460
they nailed like that's Nails because

3055
02:00:12,890 --> 02:00:10,380
it's specific they know what they're

3056
02:00:14,629 --> 02:00:12,900
doing it's specific exactly so right to

3057
02:00:17,510 --> 02:00:14,639
what the thing is right you know like

3058
02:00:19,129 --> 02:00:17,520
right I I so I'm look I'm not gonna go

3059
02:00:20,750 --> 02:00:19,139
see the new Exodus but I don't know

3060
02:00:22,030 --> 02:00:20,760
right let me change my mind on that one

3061
02:00:24,109 --> 02:00:22,040
too

3062
02:00:25,669 --> 02:00:24,119
come back you bring up anytime you're

3063
02:00:27,589 --> 02:00:25,679
doing this like you gotta be specific

3064
02:00:29,870 --> 02:00:27,599
again sorry this is the teacher in me

3065
02:00:31,729 --> 02:00:29,880
because I teach theater like what what

3066
02:00:33,229 --> 02:00:31,739
are you doing right what are you doing

3067
02:00:34,490 --> 02:00:33,239
yeah what are you doing like I have

3068
02:00:35,629 --> 02:00:34,500
students who are really good writers and

3069
02:00:36,770 --> 02:00:35,639
they're really good at dialogue but

3070
02:00:39,470 --> 02:00:36,780
there's no story there and you're like

3071
02:00:41,209 --> 02:00:39,480
okay great I love that you as an actor

3072
02:00:43,550 --> 02:00:41,219
like I'll take that and I will have a

3073
02:00:44,810 --> 02:00:43,560
[\h__\h] ball for your storytelling

3074
02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:44,820
people are gonna be like what's the

3075
02:00:49,270 --> 02:00:47,280
story it sounds great everything's got

3076
02:00:52,550 --> 02:00:49,280
to be specific and that's like yeah

3077
02:00:54,169 --> 02:00:52,560
[\h__\h] like yeah oh you want you want you

3078
02:00:57,589 --> 02:00:54,179
want it to be you want more you want

3079
02:01:00,770 --> 02:00:57,599
more okay yeah then that's just the

3080
02:01:02,629 --> 02:01:00,780
movie I'm making like on it yeah um so

3081
02:01:04,129 --> 02:01:02,639
we are currently working with a writer

3082
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:04,139
for I'm gonna say the name of the movie

3083
02:01:07,910 --> 02:01:06,480
is called hide uh it's it we're very

3084
02:01:11,510 --> 02:01:07,920
excited about yeah we're really excited

3085
02:01:13,609 --> 02:01:11,520
about it it's um we are finding a

3086
02:01:16,550 --> 02:01:13,619
balance between building the character

3087
02:01:18,169 --> 02:01:16,560
in the first half hour and scary stuff

3088
02:01:20,390 --> 02:01:18,179
you know but for the first half hour

3089
02:01:22,189 --> 02:01:20,400
you're with this character and you're

3090
02:01:25,070 --> 02:01:22,199
learning about her and you're growing

3091
02:01:27,169 --> 02:01:25,080
with her and like that was what we loved

3092
02:01:29,870 --> 02:01:27,179
we we've been watching a lot of movies

3093
02:01:32,390 --> 02:01:29,880
that we love and I said do you know why

3094
02:01:34,370 --> 02:01:32,400
I love Alien I love Alien I love the

3095
02:01:35,510 --> 02:01:34,380
first one and the second one's okay it's

3096
02:01:38,689 --> 02:01:35,520
more of an action movie but the first

3097
02:01:40,609 --> 02:01:38,699
one I loved why I loved every single

3098
02:01:43,430 --> 02:01:40,619
character and there was a lot of time

3099
02:01:46,129 --> 02:01:43,440
with them I loved them so much and when

3100
02:01:48,830 --> 02:01:46,139
they died I got sad and when Ripley

3101
02:01:51,229 --> 02:01:48,840
survived I was cheering because I

3102
02:01:52,729 --> 02:01:51,239
[\h__\h] loved them and in that movie in

3103
02:01:54,890 --> 02:01:52,739
the director's cut I don't think you

3104
02:01:57,169 --> 02:01:54,900
could even get away with this you spend

3105
02:01:58,850 --> 02:01:57,179
an hour with them before you even get to

3106
02:02:01,189 --> 02:01:58,860
this planet

3107
02:02:02,990 --> 02:02:01,199
that is character development now can

3108
02:02:04,609 --> 02:02:03,000
you do that now no so but we so we have

3109
02:02:05,990 --> 02:02:04,619
to condense it to a half hour and that's

3110
02:02:07,689 --> 02:02:06,000
even a lot of time to spend with a

3111
02:02:09,950 --> 02:02:07,699
character you know

3112
02:02:11,390 --> 02:02:09,960
I think I do it though I think it just

3113
02:02:12,950 --> 02:02:11,400
has to be done you have to know but you

3114
02:02:14,270 --> 02:02:12,960
gotta know you gotta keep it you gotta

3115
02:02:16,250 --> 02:02:14,280
keep it moving you gotta keep it moving

3116
02:02:17,629 --> 02:02:16,260
you know but you can do that in

3117
02:02:19,970 --> 02:02:17,639
character build again Halloween one

3118
02:02:22,189 --> 02:02:19,980
right like it's a slow burn but there's

3119
02:02:23,270 --> 02:02:22,199
there's always something happening even

3120
02:02:25,729 --> 02:02:23,280
though you're spending a lot of time

3121
02:02:28,250 --> 02:02:25,739
with like there's a lot happening in the

3122
02:02:30,169 --> 02:02:28,260
space right in the void there are things

3123
02:02:31,970 --> 02:02:30,179
happening so while it's slow and it's a

3124
02:02:33,010 --> 02:02:31,980
slow burn aliens the same way alien the

3125
02:02:36,649 --> 02:02:33,020
same way

3126
02:02:38,810 --> 02:02:36,659
there's still stuff happening it's just

3127
02:02:40,010 --> 02:02:38,820
happening peripherally yeah and that's

3128
02:02:42,290 --> 02:02:40,020
good storytelling right where you're

3129
02:02:44,750 --> 02:02:42,300
like I just watched possessor which I

3130
02:02:46,370 --> 02:02:44,760
liked a lot and it's slow but there's so

3131
02:02:48,530 --> 02:02:46,380
much happening like

3132
02:02:49,910 --> 02:02:48,540
around it that I'm like no no it works

3133
02:02:52,790 --> 02:02:49,920
because I know that I know it's building

3134
02:02:55,070 --> 02:02:52,800
so yeah in it and I like the person and

3135
02:02:58,129 --> 02:02:55,080
I will say this when that half hour is

3136
02:03:00,950 --> 02:02:58,139
up my God does that clock start ticking

3137
02:03:02,870 --> 02:03:00,960
in this movie it's like oh [\h__\h] like it

3138
02:03:05,990 --> 02:03:02,880
like suddenly you're in you're in third

3139
02:03:08,350 --> 02:03:06,000
gear and it's like oh no but it builds

3140
02:03:12,310 --> 02:03:08,360
to that moment so is it sensual though

3141
02:03:13,980 --> 02:03:12,320
and Nick that's why we need your help

3142
02:03:20,950 --> 02:03:13,990
right right

3143
02:03:25,490 --> 02:03:22,910
I also think that one of the greatest

3144
02:03:28,010 --> 02:03:25,500
homages that they missed out on uh was

3145
02:03:29,510 --> 02:03:28,020
to actually take one of the songs from

3146
02:03:31,850 --> 02:03:29,520
Halloween three like one of the chase

3147
02:03:34,070 --> 02:03:31,860
songs like charity of the pumpkins and

3148
02:03:38,570 --> 02:03:34,080
modernize that and put that in the trash

3149
02:03:42,229 --> 02:03:41,149
yeah exactly exactly put the horns up

3150
02:03:45,770 --> 02:03:42,239
baby

3151
02:03:48,129 --> 02:03:45,780
um sorry so no no let's um we'll wrap

3152
02:03:51,350 --> 02:03:48,139
things up guys it's uh

3153
02:03:52,810 --> 02:03:51,360
this stream is longer than the movie I

3154
02:03:55,490 --> 02:03:52,820
know right

3155
02:03:56,750 --> 02:03:55,500
yeah like we're talking to Sarah's like

3156
02:03:58,609 --> 02:03:56,760
are you guys gonna talk for four hours

3157
02:04:00,530 --> 02:03:58,619
you know I was like like last time we

3158
02:04:03,430 --> 02:04:00,540
did four hours we also covered four

3159
02:04:06,350 --> 02:04:03,440
movies holy [\h__\h] okay

3160
02:04:08,930 --> 02:04:06,360
no we'll wrap things up here

3161
02:04:12,169 --> 02:04:08,940
um but I guess to kind of do that guys

3162
02:04:14,330 --> 02:04:12,179
would you recommend people go see

3163
02:04:16,850 --> 02:04:14,340
Halloween ends if they have not seen it

3164
02:04:19,010 --> 02:04:16,860
yet Nick start with you yeah I totally

3165
02:04:19,790 --> 02:04:19,020
would I think I think if you like if you

3166
02:04:28,729 --> 02:04:19,800
like

3167
02:04:30,950 --> 02:04:28,739
yeah I mean listen

3168
02:04:32,750 --> 02:04:30,960
you know what you you don't know what

3169
02:04:36,229 --> 02:04:32,760
you're getting but you do you do know

3170
02:04:38,390 --> 02:04:36,239
what you're getting like I go into it if

3171
02:04:39,530 --> 02:04:38,400
you go into you just have fun I yeah I

3172
02:04:41,810 --> 02:04:39,540
think it's great I think it's enjoyable

3173
02:04:44,290 --> 02:04:41,820
it's well acted it's well shot

3174
02:04:46,729 --> 02:04:44,300
um I think there's some really great

3175
02:04:49,250 --> 02:04:46,739
moments in it there's some great moments

3176
02:04:53,030 --> 02:04:49,260
if you like slasher films um The Cutting

3177
02:04:55,609 --> 02:04:53,040
the tongue out one was brutal

3178
02:04:57,770 --> 02:04:55,619
um and well done and I think it's I

3179
02:04:59,149 --> 02:04:57,780
think it's fun it has problems

3180
02:05:00,950 --> 02:04:59,159
but

3181
02:05:02,089 --> 02:05:00,960
you know there's a lot of movies that

3182
02:05:04,010 --> 02:05:02,099
have problems that you still can really

3183
02:05:07,490 --> 02:05:04,020
enjoy yourself I think in general this

3184
02:05:08,570 --> 02:05:07,500
Trilogy is for me at its low point is

3185
02:05:09,830 --> 02:05:08,580
still low but I still have fun

3186
02:05:11,209 --> 02:05:09,840
throughout because I like the character

3187
02:05:12,229 --> 02:05:11,219
if you like the character of Michael

3188
02:05:14,209 --> 02:05:12,239
Myers

3189
02:05:16,550 --> 02:05:14,219
I think it's a good one to go see I

3190
02:05:19,189 --> 02:05:16,560
would watch it I'd watch it again

3191
02:05:21,709 --> 02:05:19,199
okay how about you guys Bethany

3192
02:05:25,609 --> 02:05:21,719
I would say no

3193
02:05:27,050 --> 02:05:25,619
um until or unless a full again a full

3194
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:27,060
director's cut comes out I think that

3195
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:29,520
everything that that I like about it I

3196
02:05:32,149 --> 02:05:31,199
like from the original Halloween so I

3197
02:05:33,830 --> 02:05:32,159
would say just watch the original

3198
02:05:37,030 --> 02:05:33,840
Halloween

3199
02:05:40,609 --> 02:05:37,040
um I would say if

3200
02:05:42,950 --> 02:05:40,619
the stuff that is new in this film is

3201
02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:42,960
not complete enough for me to be

3202
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:45,119
satisfied with the newness of it so I

3203
02:05:48,290 --> 02:05:46,800
think I would want a longer Arc from

3204
02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:48,300
Corey I would want a longer more

3205
02:05:51,770 --> 02:05:50,400
realistic romantic Arc between Corey and

3206
02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:51,780
Allison

3207
02:05:57,530 --> 02:05:54,960
um and I don't get that yet and I think

3208
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:57,540
we will get that at some point so

3209
02:06:00,890 --> 02:05:59,760
I would say no with an asterisk

3210
02:06:04,550 --> 02:06:00,900
okay

3211
02:06:07,490 --> 02:06:04,560
Dennis I would say yes uh but here's how

3212
02:06:09,890 --> 02:06:07,500
I would suggest you watch it

3213
02:06:12,350 --> 02:06:09,900
well Halloween season what's Halloween

3214
02:06:14,030 --> 02:06:12,360
three watch Halloween three seasons of

3215
02:06:15,109 --> 02:06:14,040
The Witch and then you're done no uh so

3216
02:06:16,490 --> 02:06:15,119
here's what I would do if you're if

3217
02:06:18,290 --> 02:06:16,500
you're interested in the Michael Myers

3218
02:06:20,930 --> 02:06:18,300
Arc I think this is a very interesting

3219
02:06:23,149 --> 02:06:20,940
way to watch this watch the first movie

3220
02:06:24,350 --> 02:06:23,159
then watch Halloween ends skip

3221
02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:24,360
everything else

3222
02:06:27,950 --> 02:06:26,880
watch those two movies back to back I

3223
02:06:29,810 --> 02:06:27,960
guarantee you're gonna like Halloween

3224
02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:29,820
ends Karen I think that's good I like

3225
02:06:33,890 --> 02:06:31,920
that yeah skip everything else and just

3226
02:06:35,750 --> 02:06:33,900
revisit it that way and then watch

3227
02:06:37,450 --> 02:06:35,760
Halloween three season the witch because

3228
02:06:40,250 --> 02:06:37,460
that's the best one

3229
02:06:42,109 --> 02:06:40,260
and then watch Halloween H2O because

3230
02:06:46,570 --> 02:06:42,119
it's lovely there's some pretty

3231
02:06:51,649 --> 02:06:50,030
I used to watch it it's been a while I

3232
02:06:54,050 --> 02:06:51,659
think it's better than the reboots yeah

3233
02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:54,060
we just become best friends yes do you

3234
02:06:59,169 --> 02:06:56,400
want to do karate in my garage yes do

3235
02:07:06,709 --> 02:07:03,550
Halloween H2O is it's awesome

3236
02:07:09,830 --> 02:07:06,719
unfortunate title and a very bad haircut

3237
02:07:11,810 --> 02:07:09,840
permeates the movie but at one point but

3238
02:07:13,550 --> 02:07:11,820
at one point you get because her Jamie

3239
02:07:17,390 --> 02:07:13,560
Lee Curtis's mom I can't remember her

3240
02:07:19,609 --> 02:07:17,400
name isn't it Janet Janet Lee is in it

3241
02:07:21,530 --> 02:07:19,619
and at one point says can I give you

3242
02:07:23,810 --> 02:07:21,540
some motherly advice because she plays

3243
02:07:26,570 --> 02:07:23,820
an older colleague and then this the the

3244
02:07:28,310 --> 02:07:26,580
psycho theme swells and then Blends back

3245
02:07:30,109 --> 02:07:28,320
into the regular backer music and

3246
02:07:32,030 --> 02:07:30,119
janetly walks off to the type of

3247
02:07:33,830 --> 02:07:32,040
Cadillac she was driving in Psycho or

3248
02:07:35,290 --> 02:07:33,840
whatever the car was and it's just like

3249
02:07:38,589 --> 02:07:35,300
this like

3250
02:07:42,290 --> 02:07:38,599
that that's fan service right there

3251
02:07:44,570 --> 02:07:42,300
freaking movie it's so good I love you I

3252
02:07:46,910 --> 02:07:44,580
like that movie because I love it again

3253
02:07:48,410 --> 02:07:46,920
for me it sounds great following two and

3254
02:07:50,750 --> 02:07:48,420
then that movie that's that's the one

3255
02:07:52,250 --> 02:07:50,760
I'm like those are my three those are my

3256
02:07:55,070 --> 02:07:52,260
my three winner winner winner chicken

3257
02:07:57,649 --> 02:07:55,080
dinner uh but she's still his sister in

3258
02:07:59,570 --> 02:07:57,659
that movie yep yeah I'm fine with that

3259
02:08:01,430 --> 02:07:59,580
storyline and she's also traumatized

3260
02:08:04,070 --> 02:08:01,440
she's drinking too much you know like

3261
02:08:07,490 --> 02:08:04,080
it's a very realistic alternate universe

3262
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:07,500
take on her and um it's a great our cat

3263
02:08:13,209 --> 02:08:10,320
just came into the frame following H2O

3264
02:08:15,709 --> 02:08:13,219
all the way yeah yeah

3265
02:08:19,490 --> 02:08:15,719
let's play a garage

3266
02:08:22,189 --> 02:08:19,500
okay well all right guys so

3267
02:08:24,790 --> 02:08:22,199
speaking of movies we cannot go without

3268
02:08:26,810 --> 02:08:24,800
talking about a little film coming out

3269
02:08:29,209 --> 02:08:26,820
very soon

3270
02:08:32,089 --> 02:08:29,219
um and this is I'm gonna play the

3271
02:08:34,129 --> 02:08:32,099
trailer Genesis oh snap okay okay yes I

3272
02:08:35,629 --> 02:08:34,139
know it's premiering soon so let me go

3273
02:08:37,230 --> 02:08:35,639
ahead and play that very quickly here

3274
02:08:41,750 --> 02:08:37,240
hang tight guys

3275
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:51,709
thank you

3276
02:08:51,719 --> 02:09:12,729
foreign

3277
02:09:17,930 --> 02:09:15,890
thank you thanks guys yeah so tell us a

3278
02:09:20,270 --> 02:09:17,940
little about um when is this premiering

3279
02:09:22,669 --> 02:09:20,280
how can we see it

3280
02:09:23,990 --> 02:09:22,679
um yeah tell us a little about doors you

3281
02:09:26,089 --> 02:09:24,000
won't I know you don't want to give away

3282
02:09:27,890 --> 02:09:26,099
too much but what are we willing to

3283
02:09:30,830 --> 02:09:27,900
share you wanna you wanna I'll let you

3284
02:09:32,870 --> 02:09:30,840
take it yes yeah um so Doris is a is a

3285
02:09:34,490 --> 02:09:32,880
short film that Dennis and I shot over

3286
02:09:37,729 --> 02:09:34,500
quarantine

3287
02:09:39,709 --> 02:09:37,739
um so in 2020 2021 yeah it was like when

3288
02:09:42,530 --> 02:09:39,719
the 14th variant came out everyone was

3289
02:09:45,729 --> 02:09:42,540
like please stay home again yeah so um

3290
02:09:47,450 --> 02:09:45,739
uh Dennis shot it you know

3291
02:09:48,890 --> 02:09:47,460
cinematographized it it was just the two

3292
02:09:50,450 --> 02:09:48,900
of us yeah the two of us decided to

3293
02:09:52,129 --> 02:09:50,460
produce something while we were like

3294
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:52,139
locked up and we were like let's just do

3295
02:09:55,669 --> 02:09:53,520
something short it doesn't have to be

3296
02:09:57,050 --> 02:09:55,679
like this big production it'll just be

3297
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:57,060
the two of us and it became a big

3298
02:10:02,149 --> 02:09:59,520
production with the two of us so it's

3299
02:10:04,609 --> 02:10:02,159
this little film about a woman who is uh

3300
02:10:07,189 --> 02:10:04,619
in her her apartment and suddenly hears

3301
02:10:08,990 --> 02:10:07,199
knocking coming from every door in her

3302
02:10:12,169 --> 02:10:09,000
apartment she's terrorized by an unseen

3303
02:10:14,750 --> 02:10:12,179
Force yeah and um yeah it premieres

3304
02:10:16,970 --> 02:10:14,760
Halloween Halloween at midnight uh so

3305
02:10:18,350 --> 02:10:16,980
October 31st as soon as you wake up it

3306
02:10:21,290 --> 02:10:18,360
will be on my YouTube channel which is

3307
02:10:23,570 --> 02:10:21,300
youtube.com decalo uh we're also going

3308
02:10:25,609 --> 02:10:23,580
to be doing a tilde and tilde and Uncle

3309
02:10:29,390 --> 02:10:25,619
van live stream which are two characters

3310
02:10:30,890 --> 02:10:29,400
that we perform as and uh they that is a

3311
02:10:32,689 --> 02:10:30,900
live stream that will be on Halloween

3312
02:10:34,250 --> 02:10:32,699
night from 7 pm to 8pm you can also

3313
02:10:36,410 --> 02:10:34,260
watch it there live with us I believe

3314
02:10:37,550 --> 02:10:36,420
it's going to be part of the segment uh

3315
02:10:39,770 --> 02:10:37,560
or one of the segments in there

3316
02:10:41,330 --> 02:10:39,780
hopefully I think um yeah we're really

3317
02:10:42,649 --> 02:10:41,340
excited about it I mean it had a nice

3318
02:10:44,990 --> 02:10:42,659
little run on the film festival circuit

3319
02:10:46,250 --> 02:10:45,000
we got into some crazy festivals we

3320
02:10:48,530 --> 02:10:46,260
didn't get into any of the big ones but

3321
02:10:50,270 --> 02:10:48,540
we got him some awesome maniacal ones

3322
02:10:52,609 --> 02:10:50,280
that we were like this is great we're in

3323
02:10:54,470 --> 02:10:52,619
good company and shorts four minutes

3324
02:10:57,169 --> 02:10:54,480
four minutes uh it's nothing there's

3325
02:10:59,390 --> 02:10:57,179
nothing gory it's all psychological you

3326
02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:59,400
don't you know but it's uh I think it's

3327
02:11:03,290 --> 02:11:00,480
pretty scary I think it's pretty

3328
02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:03,300
terrifying yeah I think plays on the

3329
02:11:06,830 --> 02:11:04,800
isolation a lot of us have been feeling

3330
02:11:08,870 --> 02:11:06,840
for the last few years so yeah and then

3331
02:11:10,430 --> 02:11:08,880
we have other films too uh Lonely Hearts

3332
02:11:11,750 --> 02:11:10,440
is available on my YouTube channel and

3333
02:11:14,270 --> 02:11:11,760
all my other films are available on

3334
02:11:16,669 --> 02:11:14,280
Vimeo uh and again now we're now we're

3335
02:11:18,470 --> 02:11:16,679
working on our another short while we're

3336
02:11:19,490 --> 02:11:18,480
working on these two features that you

3337
02:11:20,689 --> 02:11:19,500
know we're working on I'm working on

3338
02:11:22,669 --> 02:11:20,699
something a couple of things with you

3339
02:11:24,169 --> 02:11:22,679
Ryan and Nick and we're also working on

3340
02:11:25,189 --> 02:11:24,179
our own thing called hide which we

3341
02:11:26,810 --> 02:11:25,199
mentioned

3342
02:11:30,950 --> 02:11:26,820
um but we are also working on something

3343
02:11:35,450 --> 02:11:30,960
and tentatively titled demonatrix and it

3344
02:11:37,970 --> 02:11:35,460
is a short horror film that is fully

3345
02:11:41,570 --> 02:11:37,980
dubbed so it so it's meant to look like

3346
02:11:43,490 --> 02:11:41,580
an old Italian movie that like yeah and

3347
02:11:46,070 --> 02:11:43,500
so and so it's in that vein of like

3348
02:11:48,890 --> 02:11:46,080
Mario Bava gory practical effects

3349
02:11:51,950 --> 02:11:48,900
practical effects uh it's it's insane

3350
02:11:53,629 --> 02:11:51,960
and for those who will get it you will

3351
02:11:56,290 --> 02:11:53,639
get it for those who don't they're not

3352
02:11:59,330 --> 02:11:56,300
gonna know what the hell to do with it

3353
02:12:01,209 --> 02:11:59,340
welcome welcome to this genre for sure

3354
02:12:03,770 --> 02:12:01,219
exactly yeah

3355
02:12:07,250 --> 02:12:03,780
this one demonagers

3356
02:12:08,750 --> 02:12:07,260
is 100 for horror fans like it is going

3357
02:12:11,330 --> 02:12:08,760
to be loved by horror fans and probably

3358
02:12:14,390 --> 02:12:11,340
for for people who aren't into that the

3359
02:12:18,890 --> 02:12:14,400
Italian Gore stuff they'll put like what

3360
02:12:22,250 --> 02:12:18,900
the hell why is wrong with you like

3361
02:12:24,890 --> 02:12:22,260
I love it so yeah okay as as someone who

3362
02:12:26,689 --> 02:12:24,900
Suspiria is one of my favorite movies I

3363
02:12:30,050 --> 02:12:26,699
can't wait I can't we cannot wait to see

3364
02:12:32,330 --> 02:12:30,060
that my man so um love Suspiria love it

3365
02:12:34,010 --> 02:12:32,340
Nick tell us what you're up to my man

3366
02:12:36,290 --> 02:12:34,020
where can we find everything you're up

3367
02:12:39,290 --> 02:12:36,300
to uh first of all just log rolling for

3368
02:12:41,570 --> 02:12:39,300
you guys like doors is incredible like

3369
02:12:43,370 --> 02:12:41,580
Ryan thank you I like watching on my

3370
02:12:46,070 --> 02:12:43,380
phone with headphones and then I like I

3371
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:46,080
like screen share it to my big ass TV in

3372
02:12:51,530 --> 02:12:48,480
my living room and watched it again uh

3373
02:12:54,109 --> 02:12:51,540
it is it is um it is amazing I just

3374
02:12:55,850 --> 02:12:54,119
thank you very much cinematography the

3375
02:13:02,830 --> 02:12:55,860
sound design I send it to Nick and all I

3376
02:13:09,890 --> 02:13:06,709
I'm like hi Dennis my name is Nick

3377
02:13:13,010 --> 02:13:09,900
can we be friends do you need actors for

3378
02:13:14,830 --> 02:13:13,020
anything you're doing I I just call me

3379
02:13:17,870 --> 02:13:14,840
right

3380
02:13:19,850 --> 02:13:17,880
I gotta say uh you mentioned Bethany's

3381
02:13:21,229 --> 02:13:19,860
performance I have to just say Bethany's

3382
02:13:23,510 --> 02:13:21,239
performance in that movie is completely

3383
02:13:26,270 --> 02:13:23,520
dialogueless completely wordless it's so

3384
02:13:28,729 --> 02:13:26,280
good and you feel every it's a testament

3385
02:13:30,709 --> 02:13:28,739
to how great of an actor she is thank

3386
02:13:32,390 --> 02:13:30,719
you she is and I'm not saying this

3387
02:13:34,250 --> 02:13:32,400
because we because she chooses to put up

3388
02:13:36,890 --> 02:13:34,260
with me every day I'm saying this

3389
02:13:39,229 --> 02:13:36,900
because it genuinely as a director she

3390
02:13:40,850 --> 02:13:39,239
makes my life easier and that this

3391
02:13:42,770 --> 02:13:40,860
performance is that performance is

3392
02:13:44,569 --> 02:13:42,780
wordless and it's and it's great thank

3393
02:13:46,430 --> 02:13:44,579
you I highly recommend it's four minutes

3394
02:13:49,069 --> 02:13:46,440
but it's a great feminence of just

3395
02:13:51,589 --> 02:13:49,079
really solid filmmaking and storytelling

3396
02:13:53,270 --> 02:13:51,599
and just visually it is and again that's

3397
02:13:55,189 --> 02:13:53,280
a testament to both of you guys I mean

3398
02:13:56,569 --> 02:13:55,199
it is thank you you're the team

3399
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:56,579
creatively based something really cool

3400
02:14:01,129 --> 02:13:58,800
and I I highly recommend

3401
02:14:02,450 --> 02:14:01,139
watch it it is visually pleasing and the

3402
02:14:04,129 --> 02:14:02,460
storytelling the storytelling it's

3403
02:14:06,649 --> 02:14:04,139
pleasing to log roll into you guys go

3404
02:14:07,490 --> 02:14:06,659
check it out thank you very kind thank

3405
02:14:10,189 --> 02:14:07,500
you

3406
02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:10,199
um I just I have no life and just talk

3407
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:13,199
about sensuality so um

3408
02:14:28,010 --> 02:14:15,010
uh

3409
02:14:29,890 --> 02:14:28,020
I bake a lot I'll come Upstate with some

3410
02:14:32,990 --> 02:14:29,900
baked goods for you guys did you see

3411
02:14:36,850 --> 02:14:33,000
the art the clown cake that someone made

3412
02:14:41,629 --> 02:14:39,649
so yeah you can find me Instagram and on

3413
02:14:43,129 --> 02:14:41,639
socials uh there's a little movie Ryan I

3414
02:14:45,950 --> 02:14:43,139
made which

3415
02:14:48,530 --> 02:14:45,960
I'm proud of we did it we did it um it's

3416
02:14:50,270 --> 02:14:48,540
a movie we made a movie we made a movie

3417
02:14:52,510 --> 02:14:50,280
we made a movie we did it we made we

3418
02:14:54,770 --> 02:14:52,520
made it called reverie Lane yeah

3419
02:14:57,589 --> 02:14:54,780
on this YouTube channel actually where

3420
02:14:58,189 --> 02:14:57,599
you're watching this yes give it a watch

3421
02:15:00,470 --> 02:14:58,199
um

3422
02:15:02,990 --> 02:15:00,480
I mean I know Bethany and Dennis but

3423
02:15:05,030 --> 02:15:03,000
what can you do um but uh I do theater

3424
02:15:06,410 --> 02:15:05,040
on the city so um part of voice Peter

3425
02:15:08,930 --> 02:15:06,420
company clear voice Theater Company

3426
02:15:11,530 --> 02:15:08,940
follow again

3427
02:15:13,790 --> 02:15:11,540
they're doing new work from uh

3428
02:15:15,050 --> 02:15:13,800
playwrights or uh new playwrights and

3429
02:15:17,689 --> 02:15:15,060
players from other countries so

3430
02:15:20,569 --> 02:15:17,699
Multicultural work it's fantastic

3431
02:15:22,209 --> 02:15:20,579
um yeah and you know if you like baked

3432
02:15:25,189 --> 02:15:22,219
goods follow me

3433
02:15:28,149 --> 02:15:25,199
lots of bread and cakes amazing what

3434
02:15:30,530 --> 02:15:28,159
about you Ryan we're here

3435
02:15:33,109 --> 02:15:30,540
gracious hosts thank you so much for

3436
02:15:35,750 --> 02:15:33,119
having us for two and a half hours this

3437
02:15:37,609 --> 02:15:35,760
was my pleasure guys uh honestly guys

3438
02:15:40,069 --> 02:15:37,619
you can find me right here on this

3439
02:15:42,370 --> 02:15:40,079
YouTube channel or every Monday at

3440
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:42,380
somewhere in the skies.com

3441
02:15:46,430 --> 02:15:45,599
new episode coming out in a couple days

3442
02:15:49,910 --> 02:15:46,440
now

3443
02:15:52,030 --> 02:15:49,920
um on Halloween guys wait wait let me

3444
02:15:55,250 --> 02:15:52,040
just tell you my Monday sandwich

3445
02:15:57,050 --> 02:15:55,260
every Monday morning here's what I do I

3446
02:15:59,330 --> 02:15:57,060
work out first thing in the morning so I

3447
02:16:01,550 --> 02:15:59,340
listen to I start with let's not meet

3448
02:16:04,189 --> 02:16:01,560
then I do somewhere in the skies and

3449
02:16:05,810 --> 02:16:04,199
then I do I save the Saturday episode of

3450
02:16:07,609 --> 02:16:05,820
last podcast on the left for the middle

3451
02:16:10,310 --> 02:16:07,619
that's like you know that's right and

3452
02:16:12,290 --> 02:16:10,320
then I finish it off with odd Trails if

3453
02:16:14,450 --> 02:16:12,300
you want to do a podcast sandwich

3454
02:16:15,770 --> 02:16:14,460
put those all together you'll have the

3455
02:16:17,810 --> 02:16:15,780
best morning in your life that's my

3456
02:16:19,370 --> 02:16:17,820
Monday mornings yeah you can also find

3457
02:16:20,990 --> 02:16:19,380
me the Ryan's podcast I do voiceover

3458
02:16:23,330 --> 02:16:21,000
stuff for him sometimes I've been

3459
02:16:26,510 --> 02:16:23,340
hearing your voice on there yep the name

3460
02:16:28,089 --> 02:16:26,520
of the nasal Midwest Quality of this uh

3461
02:16:31,910 --> 02:16:28,099
Midwest

3462
02:16:33,410 --> 02:16:31,920
always a place for it

3463
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:33,420
um well yeah guys so that's where you

3464
02:16:37,669 --> 02:16:36,000
can find me uh Bethany we did not get

3465
02:16:39,230 --> 02:16:37,679
your handles or anything let us know

3466
02:16:41,509 --> 02:16:39,240
where we can find your your individual

3467
02:16:43,910 --> 02:16:41,519
work yeah I do most of my stuff on

3468
02:16:45,589 --> 02:16:43,920
Instagram Miss Bethany Watson

3469
02:16:47,629 --> 02:16:45,599
um I am also on Twitter radio Bethany

3470
02:16:50,750 --> 02:16:47,639
but all of my stuff is on my website

3471
02:16:52,250 --> 02:16:50,760
just go to bethanywatson.com and uh

3472
02:16:55,549 --> 02:16:52,260
click around

3473
02:16:58,009 --> 02:16:55,559
amazing yeah guys those are so much fun

3474
02:16:58,750 --> 02:16:58,019
this is so much fun thank you for having

3475
02:17:02,570 --> 02:16:58,760
me

3476
02:17:04,549 --> 02:17:02,580
what an um Nick knows once you're on

3477
02:17:07,250 --> 02:17:04,559
somewhere in the skies you're on for

3478
02:17:08,509 --> 02:17:07,260
Life yeah so we will definitely be doing

3479
02:17:10,129 --> 02:17:08,519
this more

3480
02:17:12,650 --> 02:17:10,139
um yeah but no I want to thank you for

3481
02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:12,660
your time I want to thank you for uh

3482
02:17:17,330 --> 02:17:15,120
going through my crazy schedule and

3483
02:17:19,209 --> 02:17:17,340
rescheduling this a million times but uh

3484
02:17:21,709 --> 02:17:19,219
we made it yeah

3485
02:17:23,389 --> 02:17:21,719
I'm so glad we made it happen and and

3486
02:17:25,009 --> 02:17:23,399
Ryan thank you for everything that you

3487
02:17:27,709 --> 02:17:25,019
do I know what you do as a labor of love

3488
02:17:29,570 --> 02:17:27,719
especially in the UFO field uh but we're

3489
02:17:31,730 --> 02:17:29,580
so grateful that you're that you do what

3490
02:17:34,250 --> 02:17:31,740
you do yeah we are big fans of big

3491
02:17:39,869 --> 02:17:34,260
households yeah well thank you well I'm

3492
02:17:39,879 --> 02:17:44,049
[Music]

3493
02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:47,389
we've we've breeded a new podcast oh

3494
02:17:51,469 --> 02:17:48,800
yeah

3495
02:17:53,150 --> 02:17:51,479
awesome guys all right I'm gonna let you

3496
02:17:55,070 --> 02:17:53,160
I'm gonna let the three three of you go

3497
02:17:57,110 --> 02:17:55,080
and finish wrap up with the audience

3498
02:17:59,150 --> 02:17:57,120
here okay and uh talk [\h__\h] about you

3499
02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:59,160
guys no I'm just kidding

3500
02:18:03,530 --> 02:18:01,679
um this was an absolute pleasure I will

3501
02:18:09,169 --> 02:18:03,540
talk to the three of you soon okay we

3502
02:18:14,089 --> 02:18:11,089
bye

3503
02:18:16,190 --> 02:18:14,099
oh my gosh guys a special thank you to

3504
02:18:18,410 --> 02:18:16,200
Dennis Bethany and Nick for taking the

3505
02:18:20,750 --> 02:18:18,420
time out of their morning to do this uh

3506
02:18:22,490 --> 02:18:20,760
to all of you for watching I hope you

3507
02:18:24,290 --> 02:18:22,500
enjoyed I hope you enjoyed Halloween

3508
02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:24,300
ends let me know what you think in the

3509
02:18:29,929 --> 02:18:27,359
comments below about the movie uh if you

3510
02:18:32,089 --> 02:18:29,939
haven't seen it yet clearly uh I hope we

3511
02:18:33,650 --> 02:18:32,099
covered it enough for you tonight uh but

3512
02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:33,660
this is a lot of fun I love doing stuff

3513
02:18:37,610 --> 02:18:35,040
like this during the Halloween season

3514
02:18:39,530 --> 02:18:37,620
move away from UFOs a little bit try a

3515
02:18:42,410 --> 02:18:39,540
little something different so I hope you

3516
02:18:44,629 --> 02:18:42,420
did enjoy that and I hope hope you will

3517
02:18:47,209 --> 02:18:44,639
enjoy our new episode of somewhere in

3518
02:18:49,070 --> 02:18:47,219
the sky is premiering this Monday uh the

3519
02:18:51,709 --> 02:18:49,080
YouTube version is already up it should

3520
02:18:53,810 --> 02:18:51,719
be one video behind this one and I got

3521
02:18:57,049 --> 02:18:53,820
to talk to documentary filmmaker James

3522
02:19:00,410 --> 02:18:57,059
Fox about his new film uh moment of

3523
02:19:03,589 --> 02:19:00,420
contact about this crazy UFO crash that

3524
02:19:05,089 --> 02:19:03,599
happened in Brazil in 1996 so I'm gonna

3525
02:19:07,570 --> 02:19:05,099
go ahead and tease it a little bit for

3526
02:19:10,490 --> 02:19:07,580
you here's a clip from that episode

3527
02:19:12,290 --> 02:19:10,500
there's testimony coming out now that

3528
02:19:15,709 --> 02:19:12,300
we're the ones that shot at the UFO that

3529
02:19:18,169 --> 02:19:15,719
crashed that gash it had in the side

3530
02:19:21,469 --> 02:19:18,179
I'm not stating this because I don't

3531
02:19:23,950 --> 02:19:21,479
know but some Brazilian UFO researchers

3532
02:19:26,690 --> 02:19:23,960
who've been digging into this case since

3533
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:26,700
1996 are claiming that the Americans

3534
02:19:31,190 --> 02:19:28,800
shot at it

3535
02:19:33,469 --> 02:19:31,200
oh interesting that's why we were

3536
02:19:36,110 --> 02:19:33,479
information on that but these are people

3537
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:36,120
that would have access to high level

3538
02:19:40,849 --> 02:19:38,160
Brazilian

3539
02:19:43,009 --> 02:19:40,859
um military I can confirm that that are

3540
02:19:44,330 --> 02:19:43,019
stating that it was it was known that

3541
02:19:46,070 --> 02:19:44,340
the Americans are the one that shot at

3542
02:19:48,169 --> 02:19:46,080
it because it had a huge according to

3543
02:19:50,510 --> 02:19:48,179
the eyewitnesses it had a huge gash in

3544
02:19:52,010 --> 02:19:50,520
the back of it it was in trouble and it

3545
02:19:54,590 --> 02:19:52,020
had white weird

3546
02:19:59,389 --> 02:19:54,600
Vapor coming out the back of it not like

3547
02:20:04,610 --> 02:20:02,030
there you go guys a little teaser of our

3548
02:20:07,250 --> 02:20:04,620
episode with James Fox I hope you will

3549
02:20:08,990 --> 02:20:07,260
either watch right here on YouTube or be

3550
02:20:11,570 --> 02:20:09,000
sure to check it out on the podcast this

3551
02:20:13,849 --> 02:20:11,580
Monday be sure to subscribe to this

3552
02:20:15,650 --> 02:20:13,859
channel click like share it with anyone

3553
02:20:17,450 --> 02:20:15,660
you think might like it and same with

3554
02:20:19,670 --> 02:20:17,460
the podcast give it a subscribe a follow

3555
02:20:21,410 --> 02:20:19,680
wherever you get your podcasts and

3556
02:20:23,810 --> 02:20:21,420
always looking for people to tell their

3557
02:20:25,610 --> 02:20:23,820
UFO stories on someone in the sky so you

3558
02:20:27,710 --> 02:20:25,620
can reach out to me right here on

3559
02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:27,720
YouTube or at the website use the

3560
02:20:32,750 --> 02:20:30,479
contact tab somewhere in the skies.com

3561
02:20:35,810 --> 02:20:32,760
uh but other than that guys I hope you

3562
02:20:38,210 --> 02:20:35,820
have a very happy Halloween if and when

3563
02:20:40,670 --> 02:20:38,220
you celebrate uh I hope this was a good

3564
02:20:43,730 --> 02:20:40,680
way to kind of ring in the spooky season

3565
02:20:46,429 --> 02:20:43,740
with y'all and uh yeah that's all I got

3566
02:20:47,690 --> 02:20:46,439
for you so signing off from somewhere in

3567
02:20:50,150 --> 02:20:47,700
this guys keep your feet on the ground

3568
02:20:56,510 --> 02:20:50,160
but never stop searching somewhere in

3569
02:21:12,050 --> 02:21:04,920
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02:21:12,060 --> 02:21:15,580
foreign

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